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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    - The vote in the House to reprimand was 395 to 28 - which means that a majority of Republicans also voted yes.

    - 3 of the 4 Republican members of the Ethics Committee also voted yes in the committee.

    - Gingrich admitted publicly that he had violated ethics rules, and lied to the Ethics Committee.

    No more pathetic whiny partisan excuses.
    Well, that's not exactly true now is it...I mean on its face, and with someone reading it that doesn't particularly care for conservatives I can see why you would frame it so, but it just isn't honest in the full picture of the time.

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    - The vote in the House to reprimand was 395 to 28 - which means that a majority of Republicans also voted yes.

    - 3 of the 4 Republican members of the Ethics Committee also voted yes in the committee.

    - Gingrich admitted publicly that he had violated ethics rules, and lied to the Ethics Committee.

    No more pathetic whiny partisan excuses.
    So what ? Newt submitted an accounting that improperly listed the donations from one sponsor. That was the "lie". However, he was cleared by the IRS in 1999 of all base charges. He was also cleared in a judicial review. So he "lied" to a witch hunt, led in part by those in his own party whom he had taken to task for their own "good old boy" ways.

    He's beholden to no one. And he kicks ass. Those are his "crimes".

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Well, that's not exactly true now is it...I mean on its face, and with someone reading it that doesn't particularly care for conservatives I can see why you would frame it so, but it just isn't honest in the full picture of the time.
    So you're claiming that those three facts I posted aren't true?

    Are you really that desperate that you just deny easily-proven facts?
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    So what ?
    So don't go blaming it on Democrats when the majority of Republicans voted to censure him AND he admitted his violations.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So you're claiming that those three facts I posted aren't true?

    Are you really that desperate that you just deny easily-proven facts?

    As has already been pointed out, 84 charges were filed. 83 of them were dropped. the one that stuck was a process charge of misleading the ethics committee, which with the later IRS ruling, technically showed even that 84th charge to be what it was, a bargain to put an end to the purely partisan muck raking by demo's in an election year. It was all BS, and Gingrich was cleared of wrong doing. But I understand when the sunlight of time evaporates liberal specious claims, that you must hang your hat on process...Ask Scooter.

    That you cling to a ridiculous process bargain from 15 years ago makes me re asses Newt, and your utter fear that he will run against Obama.

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    So don't go blaming it on Democrats when the majority of Republicans voted to censure him AND he admitted his violations.
    He was never censured. Demo's wanted that and didn't get it.

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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    As has already been pointed out, 84 charges were filed. 83 of them were dropped. the one that stuck was a process charge of misleading the ethics committee, which with the later IRS ruling, technically showed even that 84th charge to be what it was, a bargain to put an end to the purely partisan muck raking by demo's in an election year. It was all BS, and Gingrich was cleared of wrong doing. But I understand when the sunlight of time evaporates liberal specious claims, that you must hang your hat on process...Ask Scooter.

    That you cling to a ridiculous process bargain from 15 years ago makes me re asses Newt, and your utter fear that he will run against Obama.

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    You can try to claim the charges were bogus all you want. You're still wrong, but I'm not interested in a thread about that that would go on forever.

    Just don't go around saying this was a plot by the Dems. Most Republicans voted to censure Newt too. It was totally bipartisan.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    He was never censured. Demo's wanted that and didn't get it.
    Sorry, "reprimanded" and fined.
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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    You can try to claim the charges were bogus all you want. You're still wrong, but I'm not interested in a thread about that that would go on forever.

    Just don't go around saying this was a plot by the Dems. Most Republicans voted to censure Newt too. It was totally bipartisan.

    Giving up so easily? No, unless you are going to argue that David Bonior was a republican.


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    Re: Exclusive: Gingrich Lacks Moral Character to Be President, Ex-Wife Says

    Quote Originally Posted by misterman View Post
    Sorry, "reprimanded" and fined.
    Yep, so was Charlie Rangel (D).....recently...Did you think he should have been censured?

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