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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Tell that to O.J. Wrong again.
    Tell OJ that the court of opinion is not a real court? I'm pretty sure he could google it just like you could have if you didn't spend so much time playing semantics on this forum. Actually, I'm pretty sure he knows considering he walked out of court after the verdict as a free man.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Tell that to O.J. Wrong again.
    yeah, tell that to OJ. Did he go to jail for murder? No. Guess the real court room is all that matters. He was found financially liable under a system which has much relaxed conditions for "guilt" than a criminal court; yes.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    "Presumption of innocence" serves to emphasize that the prosecution has the obligation to prove each element of the offense beyond a reasonable doubt (or some other level of proof depending on the criminal justice system) and that the accused bears no burden of proof. This is often expressed in the phrase innocent until proven guilty, coined by the English lawyer Sir William Garrow.

    Presumed innocent of a crime that you've been accused of doesn't mean all doubt removed, only reasonable doubt. But if acquitted you are presumed by the Law to be innocent of said crime. Being sued in a civil court is another venue of litigation and doesn't mean you are criminally liable just civilly. In which case they don't have to meet such a strict "burden of proof" as is necessary in a criminal case.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    I feel a 70-100 page thread coming along where we beat the semantic dead horse over whether or not being not guilty is the same as innocent.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Tell OJ that the court of opinion is not a real court? I'm pretty sure he could google it just like you could have if you didn't spend so much time playing semantics on this forum. Actually, I'm pretty sure he knows considering he walked out of court after the verdict as a free man.
    It is the quite absurd to say that someone is proven innocent when he is found not guilty. It is even more absurd to write that someone is proven innocent. Neither OJ nor Anthony proved themselves innocent. They could not possibly have.

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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    It is the quite absurd to say that someone is proven innocent when he is found not guilty.
    Does the defense not have to make a case for their client's innocence?
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Does the defense not have to make a case for their client's innocence?
    Not really, they need to poke holes in the prosecutions argument. The individual does not have to prove themselves innocent. In fact, that would be a horrible system.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    I feel a 70-100 page thread coming along where we beat the semantic dead horse over whether or not being not guilty is the same as innocent.
    Nah, I think most of us agree with Grip's explanation. Consensus!! YAY!!
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Nah, I think most of us agree with Grip's explanation. Consensus!! YAY!!
    Of course I agree, it was essentially what I had said previous.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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