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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    I wonder if anyone sees why so many object to terrorist trials for Gitmo inmates.

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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Uh. No. She was not proven innocent. She was found not guilty. A finding of not guilty simply means that the jury didn't think the state proved its case. As far as the public is concerned? They did prove it. She's an amoral sociopath. Just like Mr. O.J.
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    Nobody is proven, or even proven innocent in our legal system. I wouldn't have mentioned it since it seems a bit trite, but you did put it in bold and underlined.
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    no, she was not proved innocent. she was judged not guilty, and there is a big difference.
    Semantics is quite a boring subject to me. Is she in jail? No. Was she found guilty? No. Did her lawyers make a case for her innocence? Apparently they made a strong enough case that the state couldn't convict her. Want to try her again for the same crime? You can't. As far as I'm concerned: She was proven innocent.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So? You can't do anything about it. She's assumed innocent, State has to prove guilt, State did not sufficiently prove guilt. That's it. Done and over. Could she have done it? Of course. But the State failed to makes its case, the jury found her not guilty of the charged crime. Time to move on.
    You remind me of: "So?? Sew buttons on your underwear!"

    She has been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. She is not assumed innocent. The legal system doesn't "assume." I was correcting Hat's bolded and underlined "proven innocent." No. No, she wasn't.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You remind me of: "So?? Sew buttons on your underwear!"

    She has been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion. She is not assumed innocent. The legal system doesn't "assume." I was correcting Hat's bolded and underlined "proven innocent." No. No, she wasn't.
    Yes, in fact it is the very basis of our legal system. You are assumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And for ****'s sake, who cares about all the god damned semantics. Sometimes people on this site are worse than those bratty 16 year olds you see on MTv crying about their party. Jesus tap dancing Christ on a pogo stick; I don't know if I can deal with you folk today.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    She should try livin' in a car. haha. So wrong.



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    Why are here whereabouts relevant now?
    I remember a poster here getting involved with a tracking network. Perhaps this is his doing.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    You remind me of: "So?? Sew buttons on your underwear!"

    She has been tried and convicted in the court of public opinion.
    The court of public opinion? Too bad that's not a real court and the only one that matters is this one:



    She is not assumed innocent.
    Really? I thought that was one of the pillars of our justice system. That people are assumed to be innocent until they're proven to be guilty? But wait, what if you try them and can't prove that they are guilty? Are they now "proven" not guilty?

    The legal system doesn't "assume." I was correcting Hat's bolded and underlined "proven innocent." No. No, she wasn't.
    Lol, semantics is thick with you.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Although the Constitution of the United States does not cite it explicitly, presumption of innocence is widely held to follow from the 5th, 6th, and 14th amendments.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, in fact it is the very basis of our legal system. You are assumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. And for ****'s sake, who cares about all the god damned semantics. Sometimes people on this site are worse than those bratty 16 year olds you see on MTv.
    Well, apparently you care about semantics. However, this isn't a question of semantics. This is a case of being outright wrong. A finding of not guilty has nothing to do with being found innocent and everything to do with the state not proving its case.

    O.J. was found not guilty in a criminal trial. If that meant he was innocent, he never would have lost the civil one. It's a very important distinction.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The court of public opinion? Too bad that's not a real court and the only one that matters is this one:

    Tell that to O.J. Wrong again.
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    Re: Casey Anthony Lives In A Church

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, apparently you care about semantics. However, this isn't a question of semantics. This is a case of being outright wrong. A finding of not guilty has nothing to do with being found innocent and everything to do with the state not proving its case.

    O.J. was found not guilty in a criminal trial. If that meant he was innocent, he never would have lost the civil one. It's a very important distinction.
    Of course being found not guilty doesn't prove innocence. But you are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. That innocence is not proven, it is set specifically as the starting point. The individual is considered innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
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