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    Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected - Jan. 18, 2012

    The Obama administration rejected a bid to expand the controversial Keystone oil sands pipeline Wednesday, saying the deadline imposed by congress did not leave sufficient time to conduct the necessary review.

    "The rushed and arbitrary deadline insisted on by Congressional Republicans prevented a full assessment of the pipeline's impact, especially the health and safety of the American people, as well as our environment," Obama said in a statement.


    The pipeline may not be dead though. The State Department, which was tasked with issuing the permit, said "the Department's denial of the permit application does not preclude any subsequent permit application or applications for similar projects."


    The 1700-mile long pipeline expansion, intended to carry crude oil from Canada's oil sands to the U.S. Gulf Coast, has become a lightening rod in American politics.
    The story is just starting to break, but this is great news for people living in the regions that would be affected by this. The pipeline would have moved through very ecologically sensitive areas and the public was not consulted on this.

    Looks like the protesting paid off. It might still get the nod in further applications - and probably after the election - but at least for now the environment is that much safer.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Wait a second... "The rushed and arbitrary deadline insisted upon by Congressional Republicans...." ....wasn't it the Senate bill with the Keystone requirement that was passed and signed by Obama just a short while ago?
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    It was the bill with the pipeline deadline that Republicans insisted on.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    I really wish congress and the president would stop playing chicken about things, such as this pipeline or the budget or taxes, etc.

    Grow up people and try to actually govern the country.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Of course he rejected it. Its job creation that doesn't cost $1.5 million in federal spending for every $50-70k per year job. Gotta stay consistent here.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected - Jan. 18, 2012



    The story is just starting to break, but this is great news for people living in the regions that would be affected by this. The pipeline would have moved through very ecologically sensitive areas and the public was not consulted on this.

    Looks like the protesting paid off. It might still get the nod in further applications - and probably after the election - but at least for now the environment is that much safer.
    I hope they are permanently stopped. Not because of any environmental nonsense but because the fact the company is trying to use eminent domain.No private company should ever be allowed to use eminent domain especially a foreign owned one.And eminent domain should only be used by the state to build highways and roads and nothing else.School,hospitals and municipal buildings can be easily relocated or redesigned.

    Keystone XL Pipeline Relies on Eminent Domain for Success
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Thank goodness! What would we do with 20,000 jobs this year and an estimated 100,000 jobs by 2015? And why would we want to get oil from Canada - don't we have a deal with the Saudi's and the ME? And somehow I think they could find a route that would avoid the Eminent Domain issue - but that's just too much damned work. Let's just keep the status quo of sending our $100+ a barrel over to the ME.
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Thank goodness! What would we do with 20,000 jobs this year and an estimated 100,000 jobs by 2015? And why would we want to get oil from Canada - don't we have a deal with the Saudi's and the ME? And somehow I think they could find a route that would avoid the Eminent Domain issue - but that's just too much damned work. Let's just keep the status quo of sending our $100+ a barrel over to the ME.
    No company should be allowed to use eminent domain period,especially a foreign owned company.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    No company should be allowed to use eminent domain period,especially a foreign owned company.
    They can use the concept of "going around".
    I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on whats being proposed here, hed agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute. - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    They can use the concept of "going around".
    They didn't do that.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/us...pagewanted=all
    A Canadian company has been threatening to confiscate private land from South Dakota to the Gulf of Mexico, and is already suing many who have refused to allow the Keystone XL pipeline on their property even though the controversial project has yet to receive federal approval.
    Randy Thompson, a cattle buyer in Nebraska, was informed that if he did not grant pipeline access to 80 of the 400 acres left to him by his mother along the Platte River, “Keystone will use eminent domain to acquire the easement.” Sue Kelso and her large extended family in Oklahoma were sued in the local district court by TransCanada, the pipeline company, after she and her siblings refused to allow the pipeline to cross their pasture.

    “Their land agent told us the very first day she met with us, you either take the money or they’re going to condemn the land,” Mrs. Kelso said.

    Nebraska lawmakers debate pipeline eminent domain rules | Reuters
    Can a Company Based in Canada Use Eminent Domain in Oklahoma? - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |
    Oklahoma Family Wins Battle Against Oil Company - NewsOn6.com - Tulsa, OK - News, Weather, Video and Sports - KOTV.com |
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

    Cicero Marcus Tullius

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