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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    More scare tactics.

    You guys all act like TransCanadian was making some huge corporate sacrifice bringing oil into the US. That's crap. They obviously saw a chance to make some big money going to Texas instead of British Columbia. They're not going to give up on those $$$ easily. The "going to China" line is just that, a line, and not much different than "Do you come here often?" as to it's hopeful outcome.
    More "scare tactics"?

    Why should you be scared?

    The pipeline will not go ahead and some claim there are just a few jobs involved anyway.

    Canada will do all right and the Americans will have what they want, which apparently is a pristine wilderness and further experiments with solar energy.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    More "scare tactics"?

    Why should you be scared?

    The pipeline will not go ahead and some claim there are just a few jobs involved anyway.

    Canada will do all right and the Americans will have what they want, which apparently is a pristine wilderness and further experiments with solar energy.
    I'm not afeared - but many would look at your "misinformation" in that light, their worst fears realized.
    "What? We lost that Canadian oil to China?!? That mean ol' Obama! Boo-hoo!"

    Of course, we didn't lose it to China (and I doubt we will) but that's not important because truth in media of any kind vanished years ago. It's all about sensational headlines regardless of the meat of the story itself. And, well, if there really isn't any news then we'll take some old news out of the fridge and add some more spices to it.
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    I'm not afeared - but many would look at your "misinformation" in that light, their worst fears realized.
    "What? We lost that Canadian oil to China?!? That mean ol' Obama! Boo-hoo!"
    I've seen no one make these claims and if I've submitted "misinformation"why not point it out? While it's true that I strongly believe Brarack Obama to be in way over his head, the fact is that he appears to have sufficient support of the American people to affect their energy policy well into the future.

    Of course, we didn't lose it to China (and I doubt we will) but that's not important because truth in media of any kind vanished years ago. It's all about sensational headlines regardless of the meat of the story itself. And, well, if there really isn't any news then we'll take some old news out of the fridge and add some more spices to it.
    Yes, it's probably all the fault of the media.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    ... if I've submitted "misinformation"why not point it out? [snip]
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    The oil is going to China.
    I saw no facts supporting that claim. I would call that misinformation, wouldn't you?
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    I've seen no one make these claims and if I've submitted "misinformation"why not point it out? While it's true that I strongly believe Brarack Obama to be in way over his head, the fact is that he appears to have sufficient support of the American people to affect their energy policy well into the future.



    Yes, it's probably all the fault of the media.
    Well.. yeah.. The media is painting this as a victory for the environmentalists but that's not completely true.

    One of these issues is property rights. As The New York Times reported last month, TransCanada Corp., the Keystone’s builder, “has been threatening to confiscate private land from South Dakota to the Gulf of Mexico, and is already suing many who have refused to allow the Keystone XL pipeline on their property even though the controversial project has yet to receive federal approval.”

    Keystone XL Pipeline Delay: Were Fears Of A

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I saw no facts supporting that claim. I would call that misinformation, wouldn't you?
    You don't believe the oil is going to China?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I saw no facts supporting that claim. I would call that misinformation, wouldn't you?
    Actually yes.. China and/or other foreign markets will pay a higher price for refined products than they will bring in the US.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
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    [...] The oil is going to China. [...]
    I saw no facts supporting that claim. I would call that misinformation, wouldn't you?
    You don't believe the oil is going to China?
    Perhaps, like the average rational, independent thinker, he believes in facts -- which were conspicuously absent in your post. Why?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post

    Well.. yeah.. The media is painting this as a victory for the environmentalists but that's not completely true.
    But it is nonetheless true.

    As far as property rights go that's another issue. The Supreme Court's recent decision regarding Kelo v. City of New London strongly suggests it is the Court itself which is a large part the problem regarding property rights, not Keystone or TransCanada Corp. They will do as the law allows.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Perhaps, like the average rational, independent thinker, he believes in facts -- which were conspicuously absent in your post. Why?
    China beats out America for Canadian oil — RT

    Keystone XL Oil Offered By Canada To China - Investors.com

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