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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Well, whatever. It's too late now.

    The oil is going to China.

    Rick Perry: Texans Are Baffled by the Keystone Decision - WSJ.com
    Perry's claim of 20,000 jobs is a gross exaggeration.. TAPLINE construction only took 1100 workers.

    Perry is playing this like a political football.. The oil, as refined products, was destined for foreign markets anyway..

    The key here is that because of NAFTA and the Free Trade Zone.. its far more profitable for the oil companies in Alberta.

    I don't object to the pipeline.. I object to the political liars playing the US public... Its benefit to the Americans is minimal.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    I don't object to the pipeline.. I object to the political liars playing the US public... Its benefit to the Americans is minimal.
    Me too......... I hate political liars that post photos of Utah shale oil and claim it is Canadian tar sand.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Me too......... I hate political liars that post photos of Utah shale oil and claim it is Canadian tar sand.


    Tar sands (also referred to as oil sands) are a combination of clay, sand, water, and bitumen, a heavy black viscous oil. Tar sands can be mined and processed to extract the oil-rich bitumen, which is then refined into oil. The bitumen in tar sands cannot be pumped from the ground in its natural state; instead tar sand deposits are mined, usually using strip mining or open pit techniques, or the oil is extracted by underground heating with additional upgrading.

    See the Photos page for additional photos of tar sand and tar sand mining.

    Tar Sands Basics

    You will find a whole collection of Tar sands and Shale oil photos here:

    Oil Shale and Tar Sands Photos




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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post


    Tar sands (also referred to as oil sands) are a combination of clay, sand, water, and bitumen, a heavy black viscous oil. Tar sands can be mined and processed to extract the oil-rich bitumen, which is then refined into oil. The bitumen in tar sands cannot be pumped from the ground in its natural state; instead tar sand deposits are mined, usually using strip mining or open pit techniques, or the oil is extracted by underground heating with additional upgrading.

    See the Photos page for additional photos of tar sand and tar sand mining.

    Tar Sands Basics

    You will find a whole collection of Tar sands and Shale oil photos here:

    Oil Shale and Tar Sands Photos



    Glad to see you finally admit you posted incorrect and misleading photos. I posted the proper photo of oil sand a long time ago in this thread.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Glad to see you finally admit you posted incorrect and misleading photos. I posted the proper photo of oil sand a long time ago in this thread.
    None the less both are basically solids and vary in consistency from site to site and even within the same mining operation. I am sorry that you are splitting hairs on the to the extent that you are calling me names.

    Why don't you look at ALL the tar sands, shale oil photos near the bottom of the link.

    The little pebbles are after it has been crushed and before it it slurried and extracted per your earlier photo.
    Last edited by sharon; 02-13-12 at 09:18 AM.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    None the less both are basically solids and vary in consistency from site to site and even within the same mining operation. I am sorry that you are splitting hairs on the to the extent that you are calling me names.

    Why don't you look at ALL the tar sands, shale oil photos near the bottom of the link.
    You're still being dishonest. Tar sand is sand, the same as found in kid's sandboxes, that is saturated with oil. Shale oil is shale (a rock) that contains petroleum.

    The photo you originally posted as tar sand, is from the site you just posted and is clearly marked as Utah oil shale.

    Since this thread is about oil sand, you are still being dishonest trying to pass off oil shale as oil sands. You and Karl are desperate to support your unsupportable claims that Canadian tar sand can be loaded onto open rail cars like coal.

    You both are very wrong.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    You're still being dishonest. Tar sand is sand, the same as found in kid's sandboxes, that is saturated with oil. Shale oil is shale (a rock) that contains petroleum.

    The photo you originally posted as tar sand, is from the site you just posted and is clearly marked as Utah oil shale.

    Since this thread is about oil sand, you are still being dishonest trying to pass off oil shale as oil sands. You and Karl are desperate to support your unsupportable claims that Canadian tar sand can be loaded onto open rail cars like coal.

    You both are very wrong.
    From the photo collection

    Utah Tar Sands.

    Utah Tar Sands.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    From the photo collection

    Utah Tar Sands.

    Utah Tar Sands.
    I thought this thread was about CANADIAN tar sands................ did I misread the title ???

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I thought this thread was about CANADIAN tar sands................ did I misread the title ???
    As I said earlier.. the consistency varies from site to site and even within the same mining operation.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    As I said earlier.. the consistency varies from site to site and even within the same mining operation.
    You need to learn when to simply admit you were wrong.

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