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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    That isn't a rock .. its a lump of Bitumen..

    Do you think that if those lumps were shipped in traincars they would spill and flow.

    I am really sick of being "worked" on this issue... Lies about huge employment numbers, and MORE oil available domesticaly.. lower prices at the pump, Buffet's railcars.

    This isn't an issue that should be decided by politics..........
    For the last time ........... that was not a photo of oil sand. It is a completely different material from Utah called oil shale, which is a rock.

    If you want to discuss oil shale, start a new thread.

    This is what oil sand looks like after being processed at the mining site prior to shipment. Does this look like a rock ??? And yes, it will spill and flow from a rail car.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    For the last time ........... that was not a photo of oil sand. It is a completely different material from Utah called oil shale, which is a rock.

    If you want to discuss oil shale, start a new thread.

    This is what oil sand looks like after being processed at the mining site prior to shipment. Does this look like a rock ??? And yes, it will spill and flow from a rail car.

    LOLOL.. Yes.. AFTER condensates have been added to dilute it.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    LOLOL.. Yes.. AFTER condensates have been added to dilute it.
    Wrong. This is how it looks in the on-site processing plant before it is shipped by either rail or pipe.

    Now you can admit that you were dishonestly posting photos of shale rocks and claiming it was tar sand.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    Wrong. This is how it looks in the on-site processing plant before it is shipped by either rail or pipe.

    Now you can admit that you were dishonestly posting photos of shale rocks and claiming it was tar sand.
    Check the properties.. its a tar sands photo. It can be shipped as a solid or diluted and piped.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Check the properties.. its a tar sands photo. It can be shipped as a solid or diluted and piped.
    I already did. It is oil shale.

    Oil Shale and Tar Sands Photos

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    [...] If it must be diluted to flow through pipelines, why can't it be diluted to load into tankers ??? [...]
    [...] It can be diluted to be put in railroad tankers, but why bother? [...]
    Why bother ??? Are you serious. Maybe to ship it to refineries ?? [...]
    If you're going to ship it via rail, there is no need to dilute it and put it in a tanker; simply put it into a hopper car, the way coal is transported. Or something similar. Now it may need to be diluted prior to being processed by a refinery, but you have not made that argument.

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    [...] What's funny is that all the environmental groups that oppose the pipeline, are pushing for shipment of the oil by rail. [...]
    They are? Says who?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    If you're going to ship it via rail, there is no need to dilute it and put it in a tanker; simply put it into a hopper car, the way coal is transported. Or something similar. Now it may need to be diluted prior to being processed by a refinery, but you have not made that argument.


    They are? Says who?
    Exactly and there is no need to make a slurry for extraction before it is diluted and put in a pipeline.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    If you're going to ship it via rail, there is no need to dilute it and put it in a tanker; simply put it into a hopper car, the way coal is transported. Or something similar. Now it may need to be diluted prior to being processed by a refinery, but you have not made that argument.
    I'm sure they are going to ship thousands of tons of sand from northern Canada to the Gulf Coast.

    Yeah, that's a real economical move...........

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm sure they are going to ship thousands of tons of sand from northern Canada to the Gulf Coast.

    Yeah, that's a real economical move...........
    Hey, the rail deal is some right wing conspiracy theory involving Warren Buffet; don't blame me [shrug]

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Well, whatever. It's too late now.

    The oil is going to China.

    Rick Perry: Texans Are Baffled by the Keystone Decision - WSJ.com

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