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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Actually there are prototypes in the works to reclaim "rare earths" from recycled stuff as we speak.. its a million dollars in development so far.
    I'm sure Obama will give them a half billion dollars if they ask......

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm sure Obama will give them a half billion dollars if they ask......
    No my brothers are doing it with their own money.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Not to mention one that will go further than 30 miles before either running out of juice or catching on fire.
    There are already EVs that can go 300 miles on a charge, though there are obviously many city dwellers who can get by with far less.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Solyndra was just one of many. Price Waterhouse told the government not to loan them money and Obama did anyway.

    Ener1, battery maker for electric vehicles - $118.5 million dollars of taxpayer money.

    Evergreen Solar - $5.3 million dollars of taxpayer money

    SpectraWatt - $500.000 dollars of taxpayer money

    Mountain Plaza Inc - $424,000 of taxpayer money

    Olsen's Crop Service - $10 million dollars of taxpayer money
    That's right -- you are never going to be 100% successful when you invest in cutting edge technology. There will always be winners and losers. In this case, the winners, like First Solar and Sun Power, are much bigger than the losers.

    U.S. doles out last of loan aid to solar projects | Reuters

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    There are already EVs that can go 300 miles on a charge, though there are obviously many city dwellers who can get by with far less.
    Sure, if they happen to have electrically metered parking space or an extension cord to the 26th floor.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's right -- you are never going to be 100% successful when you invest in cutting edge technology. There will always be winners and losers. In this case, the winners, like First Solar and Sun Power, are much bigger than the losers.

    U.S. doles out last of loan aid to solar projects | Reuters
    Any idea of how much money Barrack Obama gave First Solar, for example?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's right -- you are never going to be 100% successful when you invest in cutting edge technology. There will always be winners and losers. In this case, the winners, like First Solar and Sun Power, are much bigger than the losers.

    U.S. doles out last of loan aid to solar projects | Reuters

    Or you invent your own..............

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Actually there are prototypes in the works to reclaim "rare earths" from recycled stuff as we speak.. its a million dollars in development so far.
    The problem with rare earth mining is it produces large amounts of thorium that require being treated as radioactive waste, instead of a valuable commodity to make energy. That makes rare earth elements more costly.

    Lithium has problems on where major sources exist, like Bolivia and Afghanistan.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    The problem with rare earth mining is it produces large amounts of thorium that require being treated as radioactive waste, instead of a valuable commodity to make energy. That makes rare earth elements more costly.

    Lithium has problems on where major sources exist, like Bolivia and Afghanistan.
    Yes.. I know but this technology is about recycling..

    Their last venture 15 years ago netted 70 million..

    Some DO... others whine and complain about guberment....

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Yes.. I know but this technology is about recycling..

    Their last venture 15 years ago netted 70 million..

    Some DO... others whine and complain about guberment....
    I know you were talking about recycling, but I wanted to get a plug in there about Thorium, because it's a potential savior for the nuclear industry and it's presently an environmental hazard.

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