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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I thought you libs loved to quote FactCheck. Guess that's only when it proves some leftwing point. When it proves your lies, it is unreliable.
    You explain why those three refineries are closed and idled! Anyone who has been paying attention to the news has seen stories of refinery over-capacity.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm sure we will reduce our reliance on oil, just as soon as we find a reliable substitute to propel trucks, cars, aircraft, farm equipment, and manufacture plastics, polymers, elastomers, fibers, clothing, propane for rural residents, oil, grease, wax, asphalt road mixes, carbon products, roofing, sulfer, hundreds of chemicals, etc., etc, etc., etc.
    The vast majority of the oil we use goes to power personal transportation. We already have the technology to run most of that on electricity or natural gas. Now it's a question of getting production costs down and building cleaner power plants. Hence the investments in renewable energy like solar power and batteries for EVs.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Or.... stupid people giving money to "pie in the sky" green companies that take million of taxpayer dollars and provide nothing to value. They give hundreds of thousands in bonus money to their executives, campaign money to their political sponsors, then close shop leaving their employees and the taxpayers with nothing.
    Sonyndra filed for bankrupcy because the silicon market collapsed and their thin film product can't compete at low silicon prices. What makes you think the prices of silicon will stay low? As soon as PC demand increases, the prices are going right back up.

    This is just political hack nonsense!

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    The vast majority of the oil we use goes to power personal transportation. We already have the technology to run most of that on electricity or natural gas. Now it's a question of getting production costs down and building cleaner power plants. Hence the investments in renewable energy like solar power and batteries for EVs.
    There are some bugs to work out getting enough lithium and rare earth metals to go major electric car.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    You explain why those three refineries are closed and idled! Anyone who has been paying attention to the news has seen stories of refinery over-capacity.
    Wow, three whole refineries. Hundreds of refineries have closed since 1980. Guess you believe all of them closed due to over capacity.

    If you actually looked at why they closed temporarily, you would see that it was due to low margins on refined products and market conditions, i.e. low demand due to the recession. They plan on reopening when the economy improves.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The vast majority of the oil we use goes to power personal transportation. We already have the technology to run most of that on electricity or natural gas. Now it's a question of getting production costs down and building cleaner power plants. Hence the investments in renewable energy like solar power and batteries for EVs.
    Thanks for my laugh of the day.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    What it has is foreign oil and stupid people wanting to give oil companies more oil on public lands for the price of a lease.
    Yes, we should all turn away from oil and rely on President Obama and his friends to discover alternatives to oil, coal, electricity, etc.

    And we must save the save the trees, stop global warming and quickly do something about over population.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    Sonyndra filed for bankrupcy because the silicon market collapsed and their thin film product can't compete at low silicon prices. What makes you think the prices of silicon will stay low? As soon as PC demand increases, the prices are going right back up.

    This is just political hack nonsense!

    Solyndra was just one of many. Price Waterhouse told the government not to loan them money and Obama did anyway.

    Ener1, battery maker for electric vehicles - $118.5 million dollars of taxpayer money.

    Evergreen Solar - $5.3 million dollars of taxpayer money

    SpectraWatt - $500.000 dollars of taxpayer money

    Mountain Plaza Inc - $424,000 of taxpayer money

    Olsen's Crop Service - $10 million dollars of taxpayer money

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    There are some bugs to work out getting enough lithium and rare earth metals to go major electric car.
    Not to mention one that will go further than 30 miles before either running out of juice or catching on fire.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gary View Post
    There are some bugs to work out getting enough lithium and rare earth metals to go major electric car.
    Actually there are prototypes in the works to reclaim "rare earths" from recycled stuff as we speak.. its a million dollars in development so far.

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