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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    At today's prices, it's about $329 million dollars per day. Sounds like "much" to me.


    Don't know, don't care.

    Has nothing to do with the topic.
    Canada imports about a million bpd from the North Sea, Algeria and Saudi Arabia because they don't have much pipeline capacity to eastern Canada.

    Further, when you build a pipeline, you employ site engineers, soil engineers, surveyors, pipefitters, welders, heavy equipment operators etc.. but they don't remain at a given locations..

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Canada imports about a million bpd from the North Sea, Algeria and Saudi Arabia because they don't have much pipeline capacity to eastern Canada.

    Further, when you build a pipeline, you employ site engineers, soil engineers, surveyors, pipefitters, welders, heavy equipment operators etc.. but they don't remain at a given locations..
    I'm convinced, based your posts, that you know very little about construction logistics and peripheral job creation. All you post is simple parroting from left wing environmental blogs and papers like the Cornell "study" that was bought and paid for by environmental groups to "find" what they wanted put out as some type of scientific finding.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm convinced, based your posts, that you know very little about construction logistics and peripheral job creation. All you post is simple parroting from left wing environmental blogs and papers like the Cornell "study" that was bought and paid for by environmental groups to "find" what they wanted put out as some type of scientific finding.
    Really? Have you ever been around a pipeline constuction project?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Really? Have you ever been around a pipeline constuction project?
    Yes, have you??

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yes, have you??
    Yes.. and around refineries, offshore platforms, GOSPS ...

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm convinced, based your posts, that you know very little about construction logistics and peripheral job creation. All you post is simple parroting from left wing environmental blogs and papers like the Cornell "study" that was bought and paid for by environmental groups to "find" what they wanted put out as some type of scientific finding.
    Sounds to me like Sharon knows a helluva lot more about the subject than you do. You sound like you're parroting whatever you read on Drudge or hear on Limbaugh.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sounds to me like Sharon knows a helluva lot more about the subject than you do. You sound like you're parroting whatever you read on Drudge or hear on Limbaugh.
    Its a lot more sophisticated than it used to be.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sounds to me like Sharon knows a helluva lot more about the subject than you do. You sound like you're parroting whatever you read on Drudge or hear on Limbaugh.
    Really??? Haven't seen anything on Drudge about the pipeline lately and rarely listen to Rush.

    Any more inane comments or are you considering actually contributing to the thread for a change ??

    By the way, I'll put my 35 years of construction engineering experience up against hers any day.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Really??? Haven't seen anything on Drudge about the pipeline lately and rarely listen to Rush.

    Any more inane comments or are you considering actually contributing to the thread for a change ??

    By the way, I'll put my 35 years of construction engineering experience up against hers any day.
    What sort of Construction engineering?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Actually, I got my information originally from Wikipedia. They got theirs from the CIA Factbook, a very reputable and accurate source. The Canadian daily production of 3.289 million BPD was from 2009.

    Both agreed with the number I posted, so I went with it.

    I'll stick to the number I posted.
    Excellent, since it so devalues all your other posts and claims in this thread

    What has happened here, folks, is the risk in quoting a number that one does not understand. The CIA/Wikipedia figure includes many things other than simply "crude oil", such as:
    "Note that oil production refers to the sum of barrels of crude oil extracted each day from drilling operations compounded with the equivalent production of natural gas liquids and refinery gains from domestic or imported petroleum prduction.[2]" (Wikipedia).

    If we look at Canada - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) we see two figures for Canada (2009):
    "Total Oil Production: 3.3 million BPD (production of crude oil (including lease condensate), natural gas plant liquids, and other liquids, and refinery process gain (loss))."
    "Crude Oil Production: 2.6 million BPD (includes lease condensate)"

    If we look at Canada - Analysis - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA) we see: "Of the 2.7 million bbl/d of crude produced in Canada in 2009, 1.35 million bbl/d of that derived from the oil sands of Alberta."

    The moral of this story is, when quoting figures, be sure what they actually represent.

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