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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Wait a minute.....Did I read that sharon was criticizing TC pipeline over jobs she supposes were estimated, when our government under the non leadership of Obama the incompetent, loves to tout the supposed "jobs" they "created" or "saved"???

    You have GOT to be kidding me.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait a minute.....Did I read that sharon was criticizing TC pipeline over jobs she supposes were estimated, when our government under the non leadership of Obama the incompetent, loves to tout the supposed "jobs" they "created" or "saved"???

    You have GOT to be kidding me.
    Based upon your post, I think you mostly kid yourself. However, creating a few thousand temporary jobs that would result in higher gasoline prices for Americans in the Midwest for, essentially, perpetuity, doesn't really seem like a good deal to me. Does it to you?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Wait a minute.....Did I read that sharon was criticizing TC pipeline over jobs she supposes were estimated, when our government under the non leadership of Obama the incompetent, loves to tout the supposed "jobs" they "created" or "saved"???

    You have GOT to be kidding me.


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    We are being played over our unemployment situation..

    If these rubes think there will be more than few hundred permnent jobs... they dont know a think about oil refineries.

    As for construction workers.. Do you know the term job years? The crews will work six months and move on... It won't be 4,000 jobs for two years.
    Last edited by sharon; 01-29-12 at 12:46 PM.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    We are being played over our unemployment situation..

    If these rubes think there will be more than few hundred permnent jobs... they dont know a think about oil refineries.

    As for construction workers.. Do you know the term job years? The crews will work six months and move on... It won't be 4,000 jobs for two years.
    Nonsense. The businesses that create other jobs in a boom town type of scenerio are permanent jobs. Look, your guy was saying that people hired to hold a stop sign for one damned day, laid off, then re hired the next week was two jobs created in his stimulus rip off. And you have the gall to say what you are saying? What do you do for a living Sharon, if I may ask?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    [...] What do you do for a living Sharon, if I may ask?
    Don't answer that question. It's irrelevant, none of his business, and it will probably be used now, and in the future, to launch personal attacks against you.

    Trolling for personal info in discussion forums is very, very bad form.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Don't answer that question. It's irrelevant, none of his business, and it will probably be used now, and in the future, to launch personal attacks against you.

    Trolling for personal info in discussion forums is very, very bad form.
    Nonsense!

    Posters often give their areas of expertise in order to support whatever argument they may be making, and this information may or may not be credible. It happens daily.

    To make the claim that a poster (with a good reputation btw) would use this information inappropriately is a dirty charge and one without any substance whatsoever. The question was obviously asked out of curiosity and nothing more.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Nonsense. The businesses that create other jobs in a boom town type of scenerio are permanent jobs. Look, your guy was saying that people hired to hold a stop sign for one damned day, laid off, then re hired the next week was two jobs created in his stimulus rip off. And you have the gall to say what you are saying? What do you do for a living Sharon, if I may ask?

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    Look up "job years".. The construction jobs are temporary as they move from place to place. For a while local restaurants, boarding houses, motels will be busy at least until that section of the pipeline is completed and the crews move on.

    I am retired....

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    Fail again

    I was waiting for you to say that


    Perhaps someone other then myself should read the table of data fully and completely including the notes. Like this one

    **Raw bitumen numbers are highlighted. The oil sands production numbers (as historically published) are a combination of upgraded crude oil and bitumen and therefore incorporate yield losses from
    integrated upgrader projects. Production from off-site upgrading projects are included in the production numbers as bitumen


    You see that note is highlighting the entire raw oil sands production, which is larger then the number in the table for oil sands production because it is the raw production and does not account for the loss's during upgrading, and as such is not avaliable for sale.

    In the upgrading process they loss 146 thousand barrels of oil which takes the number from 1.616 mpd to 1.470 mbp

    I suggest when you read things you read them fully, the notes typically are very important to understand what the table is stating, and by not reading and understanding it you misread the table, making an inaccurate assumption which caused you to believe Canada is producing 1.5 million barrels per day that it is not
    Actually, I got my information originally from Wikipedia. They got theirs from the CIA Factbook, a very reputable and accurate source. The Canadian daily production of 3.289 million BPD was from 2009.

    Both agreed with the number I posted, so I went with it.

    I'll stick to the number I posted.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Actually, I got my information originally from Wikipedia. They got theirs from the CIA Factbook, a very reputable and accurate source. The Canadian daily production of 3.289 million BPD was from 2009.

    Both agreed with the number I posted, so I went with it.

    I'll stick to the number I posted.
    Not much, is it? How much crude oil does Canada import from OPEC?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Not much, is it?
    At today's prices, it's about $329 million dollars per day. Sounds like "much" to me, at least enough to make them number 6 in world production.

    It's about half of the U.S. daily production.

    How much crude oil does Canada import from OPEC?
    Don't know, don't care.

    Has nothing to do with the topic.
    Last edited by Gill; 01-30-12 at 10:57 AM.

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