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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Not very good with satire, are you?

    But it's revealing that you admit to thinking that more than a million jobs is "paltry"
    Couldn't find anything to back your claim I see, so you brought out the ole 'it was a joke' routine.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Couldn't find anything to back your claim I see, so you brought out the ole 'it was a joke' routine.
    Not "a joke" - it was "satire"

    Like I said, you're not very good with satire
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Not "a joke" - it was "satire"

    Like I said, you're not very good with satire
    Actually I am, but you are not very good at it.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    I'm shocked............ Your numbers are not even close. Canada produces almost 3.3 million barrels per DAY.

    Other than that incorrect comment, you quoted my post and totally ignored it in your reply.
    Canada produced about 2.8 million bpd in 2010 and ranks sixth in the world for total crude oil production.

    Read more: Canadian crude oil production expected to rise 23 per cent by 2016

    The burgeoning Canadian oil supply will lead to an increase of imports to the U.S.,” the report stated. “Canada currently exports around 2.2 million barrels per day to the U.S., with 64 per cent going to the (U.S. Midwest) market.”

    Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/technol...#ixzz1kbUGCgSp

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Canada produced about 2.8 million bpd in 2010 and ranks sixth in the world for total crude oil production.

    Read more: Canadian crude oil production expected to rise 23 per cent by 2016

    The burgeoning Canadian oil supply will lead to an increase of imports to the U.S.,” the report stated. “Canada currently exports around 2.2 million barrels per day to the U.S., with 64 per cent going to the (U.S. Midwest) market.”

    Read more: http://www.calgaryherald.com/technol...#ixzz1kbUGCgSp
    Ahh, ahhh, ahhh..........you can't change your facts in midstream.

    You originally said Canada PRODUCES 2.5 million barrels per YEAR.

    Now you are switching to EXPORTING 2.2 million barrels per DAY, which is correct.

    Your production figure does not appear that it includes tar sand bitumen, which contributes almost 800,000 barrels a day. Canadian oil production in 2011 was over 2.9 million barrels per day, NOT including the bitumen.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by tecoyah View Post
    Ok, I wont tell you that as it would be a false statement. My point was simply that by attempting to force a decision that was clearly not yet ready to be made, based on ongoing impact studies, state dept. requirements, and public outcry...the "Opposition" tried to overstep, if not bypass the requirements for approval. Honestly, I do not see where Obama had any choice in the matter...and probably got kinda pissed off too, as would anyone who was being bullied.
    Please change your lean to 'progressive' because independent is as transparently false as your line here. Look, this pipeline has been studied now longer than it took us to win WWII. Are you kidding me? There are now, at this moment many pipelines already traversing over the aqua fur, in the Sand Hills region and have operated with no problem. This is stall tactic plain and simple. But, I don't think it will be til after the election. In fact, how much do you wanna bet, that Obama comes out in Sept. and all of the sudden cites pressure from repubs, and signs to go ahead, then turns and uses it in his election....What a putz this guy is.

    You talk about delegating, what has this President done on his own in the past three years? Nothing I can see.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahh, ahhh, ahhh..........you can't change your facts in midstream.

    You originally said Canada PRODUCES 2.5 million barrels per YEAR.

    Now you are switching to EXPORTING 2.2 million barrels per DAY, which is correct.

    Your production figure does not appear that it includes tar sand bitumen, which contributes almost 800,000 barrels a day. Canadian oil production in 2011 was over 2.9 million barrels per day, NOT including the bitumen.
    Yes, including bitumen. NEB - Pricing - Crude Oil and Petroleum Products - The Canadian Industry

    Look..



    They are producing some 300,000 barrels more than my old data, but they import crude from Saudi Arabia, Nigeria and West Africa.. some from Nigeria.. Then they EXPORT 64% of total.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Yes, including bitumen. NEB - Pricing - Crude Oil and Petroleum Products - The Canadian Industry

    Look..


    They are producing some 300,000 barrels more than my old data, but they import crude from Saudi Arabia, Nigeria and West Africa.. some from Nigeria.. Then they EXPORT 64% of total.
    Not according to the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers. Their figures indicate that 2.828 million barrels of conventional oil and 1.616 million barrels of oil bitumen were ACTUALLY produced in 2010.

    http://www.capp.ca/forecast/Pages/de...x#SFZVxNyTcLJA

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Not according to the Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers. Their figures indicate that 2.828 million barrels of conventional oil and 1.616 million barrels of oil bitumen were ACTUALLY produced in 2010.

    Canadian Crude Oil Forecast and Market Outlook - Canadian Association of Petroleum Producers
    Umm, sharon said Cananda produces about 2.8 bpd (in 2010):

    Quote Originally Posted by sharon View Post
    Canada produced about 2.8 million bpd in 2010
    And now you're citing the same # to prove that she's wrong?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    2.828 million barrels of conventional oil ...were ACTUALLY produced in 2010.
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Ahh, ahhh, ahhh..........you can't change your facts in midstream.

    You originally said Canada PRODUCES 2.5 million barrels per YEAR.

    Now you are switching to EXPORTING 2.2 million barrels per DAY, which is correct.

    Your production figure does not appear that it includes tar sand bitumen, which contributes almost 800,000 barrels a day. Canadian oil production in 2011 was over 2.9 million barrels per day, NOT including the bitumen.
    "Year" was a typing error on my part.. They export 64% of their total production and import little over 1 million barrels per day from OPEC..

    In other words Canada is upside down because of their NAFTA obligations.

    Canada now produces MORE tar sands than conventional oil... that's why our US (Mid West) refineries geared up to refine those tar sands in 2007 and 2008.
    Last edited by sharon; 01-26-12 at 06:39 PM.

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