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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Learn to read. I didn't say "because, at this moment, there is no pipeline to protest"; I said "because, at this moment, there is no pipeline route to protest"
    Actually there is. So you were wrong either way.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, here we go...As though these things aren't being done at all...Good God. Listen, alternatives are YEARS, DECADES from being viable. Remember all the arguments against Alaskan drilling of our own resource? Same argument for these alternatives. Peak Oil is a man made phenomena. Until we get serious and start tapping our own reserves that right now are kept under lock and key, in favor of making America MORE dependent on foreign sources, then the price will skyrocket as Obama said he would ensure they do. Keep in mind that this artificial pricing in oil is the only thing keeping these nut job green energy boondoggles alive.

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    peak oil "Peak oil is the point in time when the maximum rate of global petroleum extraction is reached, after which the rate of production enters terminal decline", your right peak oil is a man made phenomena because we are using all the oil. If you dont think we are running out of oil then take a good look around, the auto industry is scrambling to produce an effective hyrdo cars, we are off-shore drilling ( which again uses a ton of energy before you even get any oil from the ground) and now we are tapping up the oil sands " “Get a bucket of tar that you use to patch your roof, go out to the sand box, [and] dump it in there,” he suggests. Then “pour…hot water in, mix it, and try to get that tar to separate from the sand as much as you can.” The population keeps growing and we keep using more oil so to say that peak oil is a man-made fantasy is reckless.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Actually there is. So you were wrong either way.
    No there isn't. The administration has just denied their request
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    [emphasis added by bubba]

    the world is paying these 'artificial' prices for oil

    the boondoggled nutjobs are those who believe that market price constitutes an 'artificial' price
    Have we seen in recent times deals made say between Russia and Iran, or China and Russia using something other than the dollar to buy their oil? Yes, yes we have.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Have we seen in recent times deals made say between Russia and Iran, or China and Russia using something other than the dollar to buy their oil? Yes, yes we have.

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    and you think that pricing oil in a currency other than the dollar causes oil to be artificially priced

    too funny
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, if I wanted to say that, I would have actually said that

    BTW, are you ever going to explain what "theory" you think I'm arguing for?

    What? Ahem...Why don't you lay out your theories and we can debate them, instead of playing childish games?


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? Ahem...Why don't you lay out your theories and we can debate them, instead of playing childish games?


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    yes, sangha

    quit embarrassing them by refuting their statements with facts
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No there isn't. The administration has just denied their request
    Yes there is. TransCanada and the governor of Nebraska agreed on an alternate route in November. They have finished planning for the new route and Nebraska is reviewing it as we speak.
    Nebraska Governor Dave Heineman also said he was disappointed.

    “Approval of the pipeline would have allowed TransCanada to move forward with the project while Nebraska finished the review process of a new segment of the route,” Heineman said in an e-mailed statement.

    Heineman, in an interview this week with the Governor’s Journal website, said he expected TransCanada to propose at least one more route for the pipeline in the next 10 days. State environmental reviews would take up to nine months, he told the website.
    Keystone XL Pipeline Seen Moving Ahead on Alternative Route - Businessweek

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    What? Ahem...Why don't you lay out your theories and we can debate them, instead of playing childish games?


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    So now you're going to back off and try to throw the burden on me? That's pretty dishonest

    You claimed I had some sort of theory:

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    Yeah, silly me...I actually thought you wanted to back up your theory. Instead just the usual....Nothing of substance...Pity really.


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    Now, you're once again claiming that I have some sort of theory. When will you back your accusation up with a quote?
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yes there is. TransCanada and the governor of Nebraska agreed on an alternate route in November. They have finished planning for the new route and Nebraska is reviewing it as we speak.

    Keystone XL Pipeline Seen Moving Ahead on Alternative Route - Businessweek
    Your post is just more dishonest BS. Your own quote clearly states that the they have yet to propose another route.
    he expected TransCanada to propose at least one more route for the pipeline in the next 10 days.
    This may be news to you, but "in the next 10 days" means it didn't happen yet.
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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