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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    None that I can see...



    It seems as though any proposal is scuttled upon announcement using the most ridiculous of imagined fears.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    oil sands are a massive waste of time...wow North America must truely be past peak oil if you are all arguing over an oil sands pipeline!
    A waste of time ???? You need a new source of information.

    The pipeline will bring over a million barrels a day to the United States from Canada.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    A waste of time ???? You need a new source of information.

    The pipeline will bring over a million barrels a day to the United States from Canada.

    lol and do you know much energy you are going to use in order to extract that oil?

    "The water-based extraction process uses enormous water inputs, requiring between two and four barrels of water for each barrel of oil produced. The oil sands industry also uses large quantities of energy and produces massive amounts of waste water, known as “tailings.” Already, two toxic tailings dumps from Canadian oil sands mines are said to be visible from space with the naked eye." Like I said desperate times...


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    lol and do you know much energy you are going to use in order to extract that oil? Like I said desperate times....
    Since I doubt the oil companies are planning on losing money, I'd say it cost less to extract than they are paid for it. Current cost to extract and refine tar sand oil is around $27 a barrel. Since oil today is selling for a tad over $99 a barrel, I think they will make a tidy profit.

    Doesn't sound too desperate to me.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    Since I doubt the oil companies are planning on losing money, I'd say it cost less to extract than they are paid for it. Current cost to extract and refine tar sand oil is around $27 a barrel. Since oil today is selling for a tad over $99 a barrel, I think they will make a tidy profit.

    Doesn't sound too desperate to me.

    oh they will make a profit but nothing compared to pumping oil pure from the ground, I just think its time we started getting real and started looking at other energy soucres, what about natural gas we need to started hitting that up!

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    oh they will make a profit but nothing compared to pumping oil pure from the ground, I just think its time we started getting real and started looking at other energy soucres, what about natural gas we need to started hitting that up!
    Oil from the ground is more profitable, but I would certainly take over $70 a barrel in profit on a million barrels a day.

    The price of natural gas has fallen through the basement. It has dropped from over $12 to around $4. Several companies are shutting down wells until the price rises.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    oh they will make a profit but nothing compared to pumping oil pure from the ground, I just think its time we started getting real and started looking at other energy soucres, what about natural gas we need to started hitting that up!

    Oh, here we go...As though these things aren't being done at all...Good God. Listen, alternatives are YEARS, DECADES from being viable. Remember all the arguments against Alaskan drilling of our own resource? Same argument for these alternatives. Peak Oil is a man made phenomena. Until we get serious and start tapping our own reserves that right now are kept under lock and key, in favor of making America MORE dependent on foreign sources, then the price will skyrocket as Obama said he would ensure they do. Keep in mind that this artificial pricing in oil is the only thing keeping these nut job green energy boondoggles alive.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Oh, here we go...As though these things aren't being done at all...Good God. Listen, alternatives are YEARS, DECADES from being viable. Remember all the arguments against Alaskan drilling of our own resource? Same argument for these alternatives. Peak Oil is a man made phenomena. Until we get serious and start tapping our own reserves that right now are kept under lock and key, in favor of making America MORE dependent on foreign sources, then the price will skyrocket as Obama said he would ensure they do. Keep in mind that this artificial pricing in oil is the only thing keeping these nut job green energy boondoggles alive.

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    the world is paying these 'artificial' prices for oil

    the boondoggled nutjobs are those who believe that market price constitutes an 'artificial' price
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yeah, that's a good strategy......... wait until something you are against is built and then protest it.

    Yep, that would do a lot of good..
    Learn to read. I didn't say "because, at this moment, there is no pipeline to protest"; I said "because, at this moment, there is no pipeline route to protest"
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So, are you saying that ANY route would be protested?


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    No, if I wanted to say that, I would have actually said that

    BTW, are you ever going to explain what "theory" you think I'm arguing for?
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