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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by BWG View Post
    So because Nebraskans aren't protesting a non-existent pipeline route you make an unfounded claim that they're happy?



    Cons are funny.
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    You make a claim that Nebraskans are unhappy, I post proof that the governor who was leading the initial fight against the pipeline is now happy and you ignore it. Suppose you post proof of your allegation that anyone in Nebraska OTHER THAN ENVIRONMENTAL GROUPS, is unhappy and you might have a point.

    Until then, YOU are the funny one.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Definitely a typical forest fire wouldn't...

    I think you're kind of losing track of the discussion. You claimed that pipelines were much safer than boats by volume. I said that may be true, but I would like to see actual data, since there are a lot of potential dangers to pipelines too. Forest fires was one of many examples I posted. As of now, you haven't countered any of them except forest fires, and your position now seems to be that only some forest fires could cause that, and you haven't given any actual source showing that pipelines are safer. You aren't really advancing the discussion. Forget about forest fires. Even if no forest fire could ever impact a pipeline, that wouldn't change where we're at in the discussion at all. There would still be plenty of potential dangers with pipelines warranting an examination of the actual data, and we still wouldn't have that actual data.

    So, still my gut tells me that's probably right that pipelines are slightly safer by volume, but I'm still not sure.
    What are these mysterious dangers ??

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, Nebraskans aren't protesting because, at this moment, there is no pipeline route to protest
    Yeah, that's a good strategy......... wait until something you are against is built and then protest it.

    Yep, that would do a lot of good..

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Well it will be interesting to see if the Canadians are so cavalier about environmental concerns when it's their own land they're talking about.
    You think they will let it sit there? Another alternative is a pipeline to Churchill, though I haven't heard anyone voice plans for that alternative yet. It would be much closer and they would have to further develop port facilities and export crude rather than refined products, but they already plan to expand traffic through there in the coming decades.
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Ahhh, the reason for rejecting the pipeline by Obama is becoming clearer:

    Warren Buffett’s Burlington Northern Santa Fe LLC is among U.S. and Canadian railroads that stand to benefit from the Obama administration’s decision to reject TransCanada Corp. (TRP)’s Keystone XL oil pipeline permit.

    With modest expansion, railroads can handle all new oil produced in western Canada through 2030, according to an analysis of the Keystone proposal by the U.S. State Department.
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    No, Nebraskans aren't protesting because, at this moment, there is no pipeline route to protest

    So, are you saying that ANY route would be protested?


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    wait this pipeline was for oil sands???????? lol.....

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    wait this pipeline was for oil sands???????? lol.....
    That's what the title of the thread says............

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    What are these mysterious dangers ??

    None that I can see...

    He said that 21,000 sensors monitor the length of the pipeline by satellite 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, with data refreshed every five seconds. If there is a problem, automatic shut-off valves can be activated in minutes - shutting off the flow of oil.

    Nebraska Sandhills Spared: TransCanada Will Reroute Pipeline
    It seems as though any proposal is scuttled upon announcement using the most ridiculous of imagined fears.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    That's what the title of the thread says............

    oil sands are a massive waste of time...wow North America must truely be past peak oil if you are all arguing over an oil sands pipeline!

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