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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected - Jan. 18, 2012



    The story is just starting to break, but this is great news for people living in the regions that would be affected by this. The pipeline would have moved through very ecologically sensitive areas and the public was not consulted on this.

    Looks like the protesting paid off. It might still get the nod in further applications - and probably after the election - but at least for now the environment is that much safer.
    This is wonderful news, the claim of 20,000 jobs is bogus. Plus the fuel produced would be destined for export, not for domestic consumption.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

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    Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected - Jan. 18, 2012



    The story is just starting to break, but this is great news for people living in the regions that would be affected by this. The pipeline would have moved through very ecologically sensitive areas and the public was not consulted on this.

    Looks like the protesting paid off. It might still get the nod in further applications - and probably after the election - but at least for now the environment is that much safer.
    Right, because shipping the oil overseas is better for the environment. Just because the fringe left in America doesn't want jobs doesn't mean Canada won't still drill, pipe, and now ship the oil. The only thing shutting this project down does is prevent jobs from coming to America.

    Oh, and it gives Republicans a fantastic talking point going into the general election.
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Right, because shipping the oil overseas is better for the environment. Just because the fringe left in America doesn't want jobs doesn't mean Canada won't still drill, pipe, and now ship the oil. The only thing shutting this project down does is prevent jobs from coming to America.

    Oh, and it gives Republicans a fantastic talking point going into the general election.
    The talking point is that it was a pure political play by Republicans. They were told in advance that the deadline they chose was too short to complete the review, and that it would thus have to be rejected. That's about as transparent as Obama's decision to put it off until after the election. Looks like offsetting penalties to me.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Canada will just build the pipe to it's western shores and make deals with the Chinese. Jobs, Money all gone. Canada and China will rep the benefits.
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The talking point is that it was a pure political play by Republicans. They were told in advance that the deadline they chose was too short to complete the review, and that it would thus have to be rejected. That's about as transparent as Obama's decision to put it off until after the election. Looks like offsetting penalties to me.
    Yep, the repubs shot themselves in the foot, even though they were told this would happen. It just shows that they don't believe or care about "energy independence" or creating jobs. They don't care much about eminent domain either.
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Rhapsody1447 View Post
    Right, because shipping the oil overseas is better for the environment. Just because the fringe left in America doesn't want jobs doesn't mean Canada won't still drill, pipe, and now ship the oil. The only thing shutting this project down does is prevent jobs from coming to America.

    Oh, and it gives Republicans a fantastic talking point going into the general election.
    The estimation is for 20,000 man years, that could mean 5,000 jobs for 4 years or 4,000 jobs for 5 years or some other combination.


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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The talking point is that it was a pure political play by Republicans. They were told in advance that the deadline they chose was too short to complete the review, and that it would thus have to be rejected. That's about as transparent as Obama's decision to put it off until after the election. Looks like offsetting penalties to me.
    They've been reviewing this for three YEARS, the only talking point here is that two months wasn't "long enough"
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Canada will just build the pipe to it's western shores and make deals with the Chinese. Jobs, Money all gone. Canada and China will rep the benefits.
    Have you ever been to, or flown over, the Canadian Rockies? I don't think they're building any pipeline to their western shore.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    They've been reviewing this for three YEARS, the only talking point here is that two months wasn't "long enough"
    The plan was recently changed, requiring new reviews. The reviews of a 3 year old plan they now weren't going to implement are irrelevant
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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Have you ever been to, or flown over, the Canadian Rockies? I don't think they're building any pipeline to their western shore.
    MrV thinks the canadians could build it but decided not to for some unexplained reason

    Damn those canucks sure are polite!!
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
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