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My point is they COULD do that.They didn't do that.
My point is they COULD do that.They didn't do that.
Of course he rejected it. Its job creation that doesn't cost $1.5 million in federal spending for every $50-70k per year job. Gotta stay consistent here.
"I would not ask anyone to do something I'm not willing to do myself," Obama said when asked if he would go on vacation while keeping Congress in Washington D.C. "We are going to stay here as long as it takes [to get unemployment extended and pass the payroll tax cut]."
As Obama called for passage of those bills, he also responded to a recent Republican push to require him to approve the construction of the Keystone XL pipeline from Canada. "However many jobs might be generated by a Keystone pipeline," he said, "they're going to be a lot fewer than the jobs that are created by extending the payroll tax cut and extending unemployment insurance."
Thank goodness! What would we do with 20,000 jobs this year and an estimated 100,000 jobs by 2015? And why would we want to get oil from Canada - don't we have a deal with the Saudi's and the ME? And somehow I think they could find a route that would avoid the Eminent Domain issue - but that's just too much damned work. Let's just keep the status quo of sending our $100+ a barrel over to the ME.
Yes I'm sure the governmental report will downplay the number of jobs for obvious reasons. Here's one that sort of shows why the downplay would take place, as well as the criticism of the Perryman Groups study as well as the American Petroleum Institutes estimates. No shock there and given Obama's head nod a few weeks ago about the pipeline not going through, I'm actually surprised it's as high as 5,000.
My point is they COULD do that.
They could have, but chose not to.They gave property owners the middle finger and try to extort into selling. For that I do not want them being allowed to build anything in the US.
Right, because shipping the oil overseas is better for the environment. Just because the fringe left in America doesn't want jobs doesn't mean Canada won't still drill, pipe, and now ship the oil. The only thing shutting this project down does is prevent jobs from coming to America.
Oh, and it gives Republicans a fantastic talking point going into the general election.
Instead, he passified the environmentalist tree huggers for this election but pissed off the unions, who will support him regardless, he already paid them off with the Porkulus Bill.
The funniest thing is Obama said that extending unemployment benefits will create MORE jobs than the pipeline would have....
Obama: More jobs in jobless benefits than Keystone | Campaign 2012 |
Washington Examiner
Excuse me if I seem a little confused on this, but how is extending a payroll tax cut and extending unemployment benefits creating jobs?
The payroll tax cut is a 2% relief from payroll deductions NOT from the tax burden. They are only taking 2% less out of your check towards your income tax bill, not relieving you from the tax burden of those taxes, the full amount is still due when you file your return. For the average $400 a week paycheck, thats about $8 per week. Major job creator there huh?
Extending unemployment benefits is a job creator? How many job offers from unemployed people have you gotten? Dont know about you, but if my prospective employer was collecting unemployment, I would be worried.
Bottom line is that I believe a pipeline from the tar sands to Houston would be a great thing, but let's not bully property owners to get it done, and let's play by the rules, and have that impact study, and make plans with the results of that study in mind. Finally, let us not break the rules, and then attempt to pin the blame on others, in an attempt to get political gain out of it. What is more important? Political hackery or America? You be the judge.
They could have, but chose not to.They gave property owners the middle finger and try to extort into selling. For that I do not want them being allowed to build anything in the US.
I think you totally nailed this one. I've been reading a lot about this and I think the pipeline, overall, is a good thing. Even if the real job count is just 5,000. But building it over an aquifer is just flat out dumb. So just build around it and the people who won't give up their land. Bodda bing bodda boom, problem solved. Put the political bull**** games away. We've got important things to accomplish (as a nation) and this sort of brinksmanship is slowing things down.
The freaking pipe is only 48" in diameter and will be buried 4 feet underground. How much eminent domain will be taken ????
When I was a kid, a similar pipe was built in the soybean field next to our house. The next year there were soybeans planted over it. It looked the same as it did before the pipe was installed.
This will cost Obama at least 500,000 votes, so in one sense this was a good decision. In one fail swoop, he killed jobs, hurt our energy dependence, and pissed off our closest neighbor and ally.
This on top of a new tariff he imposed on Canadians visiting the U.S. last month. The funniest part on the tariff is that he's blaming it on the the new free trade agreement with Columbia.
You guys should see the city this pipeline comes from. Thousands of brand new homes, no hotel rooms available for months, restaurants packed every night of the week. Now, that money is going to stay there. WTG Obama.
It would appear when Obama made the deal he had his fingers crossed with no intention of keeping it.
The freaking pipe is only 48" in diameter and will be buried 4 feet underground. How much eminent domain will be taken ????
No, the deal made was that Obama would make a decision. He did.
Sometimes I think obama is actually trying to destroy our economy. In an era of high unemployment and high gas prices which stifle economic growth he does this? "The enemy is within the gates".
Do you approve of Obama's actions of rejecting jobs? How is that Hope and Change?