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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    LOL ......... once again, the pusilanimous attempts of the liberals to feebly go ad-hom when they can no longer debate.

    So you are asserting that we will no longer face issues in the future being dependent on oil imported from such as the ME.
    That for some reason our money "talks much louder now".

    That is one misinformed and hairbrained notion.
    Sure, there doesn't appear to be any risk associated with relying on Canadian oil. I mean, it's not like they would say, "if we don't get our way then we'll take our oil and sell it CHINA!!" ... or anything.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure, there doesn't appear to be any risk associated with relying on Canadian oil. I mean, it's not like they would say, "if we don't get our way then we'll take our oil and sell it CHINA!!" ... or anything.
    But that's what they said...

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    But that's what they said...
    That was certainly their threat.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Sure, there doesn't appear to be any risk associated with relying on Canadian oil. I mean, it's not like they would say, "if we don't get our way then we'll take our oil and sell it CHINA!!" ... or anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That was certainly their threat.
    LOL ......... Their "threat" ? For chrissakes, they are trying to pipe it South ! We're the one's saying "No" !!

    As we will be importing oil for years to come, where do you think it wiser to have it coming from ? Primarily Canada and Mexico, or primarily the ME ?

    Not a trick question

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That was certainly their threat.
    Threat, maybe, but I see it as their alternative. What would you do? You’ve got a commodity that is traded internationally. Your immediate neighbor is the largest consumer of said commodity but is resistant in participating in building a conveyance of your commodity to them. Would you sit on your commodity and hope they change their mind or negotiate the transfer to the second largest consumer?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    Threat, maybe, but I see it as their alternative. What would you do? You’ve got a commodity that is traded internationally. Your immediate neighbor is the largest consumer of said commodity but is resistant in participating in building a conveyance of your commodity to them. Would you sit on your commodity and hope they change their mind or negotiate the transfer to the second largest consumer?
    I reckon I would try harder to allay my neighbor's concerns. It's not like the oil isn't going to be there next year.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I reckon I would try harder to allay my neighbor's concerns. It's not like the oil isn't going to be there next year.
    And how would you propose to alleviate your neighbor's concerns?

    1. Suggest that currently you are against but MAY change your mind? after the election?

    2. Suggest that your current position was based on being forced and you intend to reverse after the reroute plan is complete and approved?

    3. Other?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    And how would you propose to alleviate your neighbor's concerns?

    1. Suggest that currently you are against but MAY change your mind? after the election?

    2. Suggest that your current position was based on being forced and you intend to reverse after the reroute plan is complete and approved?

    3. Other?
    I would suggest waiting for the review process to take its course.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Asserting eminent domain to force the pipeline through and ousting people from their homes and further damaging the environment just for the profit of the oil companies would be shameful in and of itself, but honestly, wouldn't it also be like investing big in VHS tapes in 2004 too? This is last century's source of power. Yeah, we still need fossil fuels at the moment, but any fool can see that we're in the last days of oil. We should be focusing our effort on what's next, not what is wrapping up now.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    so why dont they build a refinery there? or perhaps even on their shores and build the pipeline to there?
    this isnt a commodity thats intended for use in the US anyway..

    dont foolishly thinking this will lower the cost of fuel, as we already have the capability to supply and refine enough to lower prices and yet nothing of the like has been done. there are plenty of tapped and capped wells that are available on land already leased from taxpayers.

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