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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    You forgot the bars. And the hookers.

    But do illuminate us on how many restaurants and hotels are going to be built to support a, what, 3-year pipeline construction job?
    Why would any need to be built??? Can't the construction workers utilize those already there like all construction crews do??



    Indeed we can. It would be much cleaner oil as well. But wouldn't it be smarter to reduce our oil consumption by, say, 5%?
    Not really. Depends on how its processed before being piped.

    If you want dirty oil you have to look at the junk Venezuela sends us.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is it guaranteed that the oil (after being refined) would flow into American gas tanks?
    We export, as well as import...Refined product is not separated into American, Canadian, Saudi, etc. What it will do is give us another source from a friendly ally, rather than relying on the ME, or Chavez....last I checked both of those places aren't really USA friendly....

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    We export, as well as import...Refined product is not separated into American, Canadian, Saudi, etc. What it will do is give us another source from a friendly ally, rather than relying on the ME, or Chavez....last I checked both of those places aren't really USA friendly....

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    How many times do you need to hear it? THE OIL FROM THE XL PIPELINE IS ALL FOR EXPORT FROM THE US. None of this oil will reduce our "imports" by one gallon or reduce our gas prices by one cent. We are already exporting 400,000 barrels a day of refined gasoiline so the oil companies can keep our price up. They are milking us for all we are worth and you think this pipeline would change that?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Yeah, no problem.........screw all the construction jobs, restaurant jobs, hotel jobs, supply jobs, refinery jobs, welder jobs, support industry jobs, shipping jobs, etc, etc, etc. [...]
    You forgot the bars. And the hookers.

    But do illuminate us on how many restaurants and hotels are going to be built to support a, what, 3-year pipeline construction job? [...]
    Why would any need to be built??? Can't the construction workers utilize those already there like all construction crews do?? [...]
    I thought you were talking about new restaurant and hotel jobs. Now I don't know what you were talking about. I don't think I'm alone . . . .

    And I now see that there will be new refineries built -- I missed that before. Will they be built in the midwest? (I hear there is a shortage of them there). Or are you talking about existing jobs in existing refineries? Or do you know... what... you're talking... about?

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Is it guaranteed that the oil (after being refined) would flow into American gas tanks?
    Clearly this is no longer important to the right wing. Just keep in mind that in order to become energy independent, we must import oil from another country -- whether we sell it to a third country is irrelevant.

    It's all so clear to me now . . . .

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill, replying to Karl View Post
    [...] If you want dirty oil you have to look at the junk Venezuela sends us.
    I have. Personally.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by megaprogman View Post
    I really wish congress and the president would stop playing chicken about things, such as this pipeline or the budget or taxes, etc.

    Grow up people and try to actually govern the country.
    Yeah, I don't think the Republicans were serious about getting a serious job creation bill through. The proposal wasn't even completed. I think Obama did the right thing is rejecting it, and they just wanted a perfect opportunity to attack him. If he passed it, he would have caused himself trouble accepting an incomplete proposal. It's kind of like when Fox News went on a rampage that Obama should fire a woman for making a speech at the NAACP, and then went on another rampage when he did fire her. The GOP was counting on him NOT passing this bill, because they didn't offer anything worth passing. It was just grandstanding. They need to get off their asses and write a job creation bill worth passing, and stop playing chicken like you said. Our credit rating was downgraded because of this BS.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Romney echoed congressional Republican criticism by charging that the move to deny the pipeline permit was based on political rather than policy calculations.

    “By declaring that the Keystone pipeline is not in the ‘national interest,’ the president demonstrates a lack of seriousness about bringing down unemployment, restoring economic growth, and achieving energy independence,” Romney said. “He seems to have confused the national interest with his own interest in pleasing the environmentalists in his political base.”

    Obama Keystone XL pipeline rejection draws criticism from GOP primary candidates - The Washington Post
    The claim that the oil from Canada will not benefit us here in the US is laughable, and really nothing but a talking point from the anti XL pipeline crowd...As usual not based in fact.

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The claim that the oil from Canada will not benefit us here in the US is laughable, and really nothing but a talking point from the anti XL pipeline crowd...As usual not based in fact.
    Says he who quotes a politician currently running for office, and on top of that presents no facts

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    Re: Keystone oil sands pipeline rejected

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Says he who quotes a politician currently running for office, and on top of that presents no facts
    Yeah, its such rocket science. A pipeline running dead down the center of the US. Pumping oil from our buddies in Canada. Couldn't possibly be a part of our energy independence from ME oil equation.

    We have to pretend its not there, it would seem. Move along.

    I thank God daily that when I was born, the doctor had a good grip, and did not drop me on my head. Lest I be so stupid so as to think that pipeline is not a part of our solution. I'm serious as a heart attack.

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