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Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

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Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Because the mega rich dems are SO connected with the little folk...right? :lamo

I definitely agree with Haymarket, so I won't bother repeating what he already pointed out, but I would add that even for a Democrat being megarich does kind of make it harder for them to connect with the voters. Kerry struggled with that for example. But when you add on top of that a candidate who is campaigning on things like cutting programs the middle class rely on and further reducing the tax burden on the super rich, that's a lot bigger problem. Especially during a year like this where awareness of the rich/working people gap is so high.
 
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If you vote for the people - the vast majority of people who work for a living and are struggling right now, that is what the people notice first. Your own personal finances rank down the list unless you constantly vote against the people then they merely confirm your bias.

What does this mean?
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

What does this mean?

I thought it was clear. The majority of the people in this nation are NOT the top 1 or 2% who benefit from discriminatory government policies like special rates for capital gains or crony capitalism. Politicians who themselves are wealthy but who vote in the interests of the average working person are fine. Those who are wealthy and vote for the interests of the wealthy over the interests of average working people are not.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Because the mega rich dems are SO connected with the little folk...right? :lamo

because the mega rich dems pretend they care for the little folk by promising them that voting for uber-rich dems means the uber rich dems will punish the rich and give the wealth to the little folk

its easy to win elections when you promise the many that you will loot the few on their behalf
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I thought it was clear. The majority of the people in this nation are NOT the top 1 or 2% who benefit from discriminatory government policies like special rates for capital gains or crony capitalism. Politicians who themselves are wealthy but who vote in the interests of the average working person are fine. Those who are wealthy and vote for the interests of the wealthy over the interests of average working people are not.

using that logic you can easily justify taking everything from anyone who makes more than 100K a year and giving it to those who don't

Hell you can justify confiscating all the property of the top 10% and killing them and distributing the stolen wealth to the other 90%
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

What does this mean?

If people are struggling the way to buy their votes is to give them the wealth of those who aren't struggling
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

using that logic you can easily justify taking everything from anyone who makes more than 100K a year and giving it to those who don't

Hell you can justify confiscating all the property of the top 10% and killing them and distributing the stolen wealth to the other 90%

So taking a valid insight about the nature of the American people and reducing it to an extremist absurdity that nobody is arguing for is your idea of making a logical point? That is absurd and fools nobody.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

What matters is how you vote. If you vote for the people - the vast majority of people who work for a living and are struggling right now, that is what the people notice first. Your own personal finances rank down the list unless you constantly vote against the people then they merely confirm your bias.

Working Democrats are NOT against rich folks. They are against rich folks who are against them.


Go ahead, fullfil everone's stereotypes -black and white, poor and rich. G'head, be exactly as you make yourself to be, and everyone else in consequence believes you to be. You will be treated as such, and the cycle will continue. The few will pay for the many, the working will be punished for the lazy, the rich will be taxed for poor, and the people who are a discredit to thier race will continue to fulfill such roles in society. Be prepared; if you choose this course of action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and people have no problem shooting back.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

So taking a valid insight about the nature of the American people and reducing it to an extremist absurdity that nobody is arguing for is your idea of making a logical point? That is absurd and fools nobody.

Haven't you made comments in the past that if the rich don't agree to being taxed substantially more the poor are going to rise up and take the wealth?

or that if the rich don't drop to their knees and beg for the "privilege of keeping what they have" the masses will take it away from them?

you dems are doing everything possible to convince the masses that they are treated unfairly because others do well. you play that game to win the votes of those who have been convinced that its "not fair" that they are poor or even middle class and the dems will "Even things up"

but you are also pushing for a civil war with that sort of incendiary propaganda
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Go ahead, fullfil everone's stereotypes -black and white, poor and rich. G'head, be exactly as you make yourself to be, and everyone else in consequence believes you to be. You will be treated as such, and the cycle will continue. The few will pay for the many, the working will be punished for the lazy, the rich will be taxed for poor, and the people who are a discredit to thier race will continue to fulfill such roles in society. Be prepared; if you choose this course of action, there is an equal and opposite reaction, and people have no problem shooting back.

That makes no sense as nobody is advocating that sort of silly nonsense.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Haven't you made comments in the past that if the rich don't agree to being taxed substantially more the poor are going to rise up and take the wealth?

or that if the rich don't drop to their knees and beg for the "privilege of keeping what they have" the masses will take it away from them?

Perhaps you can quote me on that? It seems to me you are again perverting my positions in favor of creating a strawman that will burn bright in the night sky as you right wingers toast marshmallows in the flames and pass kool-aid around like sacramental wine.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

What matters is how you vote. If you vote for the people - the vast majority of people who work for a living and are struggling right now, that is what the people notice first. Your own personal finances rank down the list unless you constantly vote against the people then they merely confirm your bias.

Working Democrats are NOT against rich folks. They are against rich folks who are against them.

those being those of us who are tired of paying more taxes to fund more idiotic government programs designed to buy the votes of "working democrats"

lots of these democrats think Doing well is waging "class warfare" against those too untalented or too lazy to do well for themselves
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Perhaps you can quote me on that? It seems to me you are again perverting my positions in favor of creating a strawman that will burn bright in the night sky as you right wingers toast marshmallows in the flames and pass kool-aid around like sacramental wine.

I have quoted your comment about the rich ought to drop to their knees within the last week. Middle of the road posters noted that was "disturbing" when you posted it
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

That makes no sense as nobody is advocating that sort of silly nonsense.

You want tolerance? Tolerate first. You want help? Do something first. You want money? Make some.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

those being those of us who are tired of paying more taxes to fund more idiotic government programs designed to buy the votes of "working democrats"

lots of these democrats think Doing well is waging "class warfare" against those too untalented or too lazy to do well for themselves

Warren Buffett (perhaps you have heard of him?) a capitalist of the most successful nature, blew the whistle on that silly class warfare nonsense when he publicly admitted his class has indeed been waging class warfare upon the rest of us for a long time now.... and he is proud to say they are winning.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

You want tolerance? Tolerate first. You want help? Do something first. You want money? Make some.

I have no idea what this tolerance rant is about.

What makes you think I do not make money?
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I have quoted your comment about the rich ought to drop to their knees within the last week. Middle of the road posters noted that was "disturbing" when you posted it

Then it should not at all be difficult to either link to it or reproduce it again. Because I suspect you are perverting whatever I said and attempting to turn it into something it is not.

But we shall see what you produce........ if anything.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I have no idea what this tolerance rant is about.

What makes you think I do not make money?

If you're making money then I think thats dandy :)

What i don't quite understand is your beef with rich folk

Just whats, the issue? We should pay more taxes? We should give more $$$ away?
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Warren Buffett (perhaps you have heard of him?) a capitalist of the most successful nature, blew the whistle on that silly class warfare nonsense when he publicly admitted his class has indeed been waging class warfare upon the rest of us for a long time now.... and he is proud to say they are winning.

You mean the guy who pays his secretary several hundred thousand a year and pretends that its unfair that he only pays himself a salary one third of hers (rather he pays himself with dividends, and other investment income) and thus his tax rate is lower than hers? or that she is some sort of middle class working person

You mean the guy who is a major league dem supporter who

1) has major interests in life insurance companies-if the death tax were to disappear the demand by the rich for life insurance would take a major hit

2) has major interests in railroads-when Obama killed the keystone pipeline, that mean more business for the trains

3) you mean the guy who set up his estate so the government gets nothing but wants people with much smaller estates to be taxed even more

sorry buddy, I don't find an uber billionaire able to speak for the interests of most of us whom Obama calls "Rich"
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

If you're making money then I think thats dandy :)

What i don't quite understand is your beef with rich folk

Just whats, the issue? We should pay more taxes? We should give more $$$ away?

I have no beef with rich folk. I have great admiration with people who work hard and are successful and make America even greater.

I believe that America is in a financial crisis and all Americans should pay five point more on their federal income tax. That includes ever wage earner from dollar one to the absolute top. I believe that income should be taxed according to the same progressive rates schedule without discrimination as to the source of that income.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I have no beef with rich folk. I have great admiration with people who work hard and are successful and make America even greater.

I believe that America is in a financial crisis and all Americans should pay five point more on their federal income tax. That includes ever wage earner from dollar one to the absolute top. I believe that income should be taxed according to the same progressive rates schedule without discrimination as to the source of that income.

which means corporate profits will be taxed at at least 61%
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

You mean the guy who pays his secretary several hundred thousand a year and pretends that its unfair that he only pays himself a salary one third of hers (rather he pays himself with dividends, and other investment income) and thus his tax rate is lower than hers? or that she is some sort of middle class working person

I imagine in your eyes he is a traitor to his class.

your hatred and vitriol directed towards him in no way neutralizes or diminishes his observation about the wealthy waging a class war upon the rest of us.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I believe America is in a financial crisis. the government should spend 5% less in each department and anyone getting handouts from the government should take a 5% decrease

no need to raise anyone's taxes then
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

which means corporate profits will be taxed at at least 61%

How do you come to that incredible conclusion?
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I imagine in your eyes he is a traitor to his class.

your hatred and vitriol directed towards him in no way neutralizes or diminishes his observation about the wealthy waging a class war upon the rest of us.

NOt at all, his interests as a billionaire are advanced by screwing over the merely rich like me. the error you make is thinking a guy who makes a billion a year has the same interests as those of us who make enough to be in the top one percent but not enough to see our estate raped at the rate people like you want and then regenerate within 20 years. Buffetts would
 
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