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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    You just fundamentally don't understand that taxes are related to income. If person A pays 15% of their income back in taxes, and person B pays 30%, every dollar that gets diverted to person A instead of person B we lose $0.15. The top 1% gets nearly a quarter of our GDP. When they pay only half the tax rate overall that working people pay, that costs our society enormously. If the entire top 1% paid only 15% that would cost us $525 billion every year. We can't afford to keep throwing that money out the window like that. They need to pay their fair share just like everybody else has to.
    I really tire of your sanctimonious nonsense that I don't "understand" something. Your definition of fair share is based purely on what someone has rather than what someone GETS. I reject that assumption. I oppose the marxist attitude that because you have more you ought to pay more. YOU AGAIN LIE claiming that the rich pay only half the rate that working people pay. that is a lie because it is based on trying to incorporate non-progressive taxes that cannot be accurately measured by income class into a progressive federal scheme.

    that 47% PAY NO INCOME TAX COSTS US billions using your concept of cost. but what really costs us BILLIONS is all the stuff the middle and lower classes demand in entitlements that they are not willing to pay for

    your concept of fair is a joke

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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Actually the poster just gave you a perfect example of apple pie red white and blue Americanism.
    again, I don't think far left welfare socialists really speak for America

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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    more of the from each according to their ability crap.
    And it's crap why? Because it makes too much sense? Too ethical?

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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And it's crap why? Because it makes too much sense? Too ethical?
    NO because it is blatantly unfair and allows the parasite mentality to make others pay for what they want

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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post


    They pay more as an absolute amount of course, but that isn't what is relevant. They pay much, much, less as a percentage of their income or as a percentage of the total taxes paid of those types. Like you hear people say "the top 1% pays 30% of all taxes" or whatever, but really what they mean is "30% of federal income taxes" and then when you include all federal taxes, it turns out it's actually closer to 15%. And then when you include all taxes it's closer to 10%. That kind of intentional distortion to try to get people to support giving even more tax breaks to the people who need them the least is immoral in my view.
    Isn't relevant?
    Yep, what I thought it all boils down to money envy and your opinion.
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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Your opening statement identifies state and federal taxes only. Yet througout the rest of this thread you bring up all taxes.
    Huh? As opposed to what? Taxes by foreign nations or something?

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Your beef seems to be in the capital income.
    Correct.

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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    NO because it is blatantly unfair and allows the parasite mentality to make others pay for what they want
    It's unfair that you pay more taxes when you make more money? Astonishing.

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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    It's unfair that you pay more taxes when you make more money? Astonishing.
    What is unfair is that many others don't pay for what they use when they can. but politicians don't want to lose THIER votes so they claim we need to pay more

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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And it's crap why? Because it makes too much sense? Too ethical?
    Taking other people's stuff in order to give it to others is not ethical.

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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    Taking other people's stuff in order to give it to others is not ethical.
    Nor is telling people that others ought to pay more so those people will be both resentful of the rich and vote for the pimps who say that

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