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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I disagree, and more importantly, so does the Supreme Court.
    Well . . .

    1) Whether or not you agree doesn't really matter (and I took it as read that you wouldn't ever, anyway)

    2) He made a specific textual argument, not an appeal to Supreme Court precedent

    3) Based on the specific textual argument, which Supreme Court decisions can you cite, and what language in them supports your assertion?
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    He claimed a power and pointed to tools which don't support it. Easy enough.
    And this entire time you do not repeat what you believe I claim, do not cite language in the Constitution which says otherwise, and do not thus prove why you think I am in error.

    Amazing.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And this entire time you do not repeat what you believe I claim, do not cite language in the Constitution which says otherwise, and do not thus prove why you think I am in error.

    Amazing.
    What's "amazing" is that even AdamT gets the analogy (even though he doesn't agree with it), and this continued stonewalling means you either simply refuse to acknowledge it or are incapable of grasping the implications of what you say. Or, a mixture of both, I suppose. Which tends to happen, I note, when you bounce from point to point looking for a "winner," without ever thinking anything through.

    Either way, the whole thing is laid out among the posts of the thread, so anyone can go back and read them at their leisure.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

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    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What's "amazing" is that even AdamT gets the analogy (even though he doesn't agree with it), and this continued stonewalling means you either simply refuse to acknowledge it or are incapable of grasping the implications of what you say. Or, a mixture of both, I suppose. Which tends to happen, I note, when you bounce from point to point looking for a "winner," without ever thinking anything through.

    Either way, the whole thing is laid out among the posts of the thread, so anyone can go back and read them at their leisure.[/QUOTE
    Then why can't you?
    And you still cannot explain it.

    Let me take you by the hand and help you. Just follow this formula.

    1 - You stated this about the US Constitution _______________________ (in that space you will find my post and reproduce what you believe are the damning words)

    2 - I compared it to something as as follows _________________________ ( in that space you will reproduce your won analogy that you think was so clever)

    3 - This proves your understanding of the Constitution wrong because _____________________________ (in that space you will connect the dots with analysis and evidence)

    You are welcome.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post

    Then why can't you?
    And you still cannot explain it.

    Let me take you by the hand and help you. Just follow this formula.

    1 - You stated this about the US Constitution _______________________ (in that space you will find my post and reproduce what you believe are the damning words)

    2 - I compared it to something as as follows _________________________ ( in that space you will reproduce your won analogy that you think was so clever)

    3 - This proves your understanding of the Constitution wrong because _____________________________ (in that space you will connect the dots with analysis and evidence)

    You are welcome.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I disagree, and more importantly, so does the Supreme Court.
    You see, Turtle, the federal government is the sole judge of the extent of its powers. No need to worry your pretty little head with all those complicated words in the constitution. Just leave everything up to our wise overlords.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    You see, Turtle, the federal government is the sole judge of the extent of its powers. No need to worry your pretty little head with all those complicated words in the constitution. Just leave everything up to our wise overlords.
    Fortunately we have the ability to vote our leaders out if we don't like them, and the ability to challenge decisions in court.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Fortunately we have the ability to vote our leaders out if we don't like them,
    Yes, the majority has that power, and if history has taught us anything, it's that majority is always right.

    and the ability to challenge decisions in court.
    The result of which will be the federal government once again telling us where the bounds of its powers lie.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Crikey, this is better than cable.
    And even when I give you paint and the numbers and a guide on how to fill in the colors you still cannot produce a clear picture. Amazing.

    And after all this you still cannot make a clear post showing what I said and explaining why you think I am wrong.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    And even when I give you paint and the numbers and a guide on how to fill in the colors you still cannot produce a clear picture. Amazing.

    And after all this you still cannot make a clear post showing what I said and explaining why you think I am wrong.
    Uh, no. The analogy, which you appear to be the only one who doesn't follow, explains why you're wrong.

    This is like watching a dog eat peanut butter. Seriously.
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