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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Here is my opinion. Romney has paid taxes based on current laws and therefore has done nothing wrong. Just like Pelosi, Reid, Obama, etc.

    Why do the "rich" who want to see change so they will pay more have to wait till the tax law is changed. Make a donation to the US today. Bet they don't. So this whole issue has turned politics of left vs right instead of what really needs to change in tax law.
    It is also my opinion, everyone should pay something in federal taxes, everyone.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Yeah, I'm the one looking for idiotic political blogs to prove I'm not envious. Well, as PT Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute."
    He quotes far left liberal blogs one minute, then laughs at someone for linking to a Fox News report the next.

    It's called hypocrisy.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    Here is my opinion. Romney has paid taxes based on current laws and therefore has done nothing wrong. Just like Pelosi, Reid, Obama, etc.

    Why do the "rich" who want to see change so they will pay more have to wait till the tax law is changed. Make a donation to the US today. Bet they don't. So this whole issue has turned politics of left vs right instead of what really needs to change in tax law.
    It is also my opinion, everyone should pay something in federal taxes, everyone.
    You hit the nail on the head. Romney paid his taxes according to the law, did not "shelter" any money or funds from the tax code, and did nothing illegal.

    Seems that the norm is to complain symptoms, rather than finding a solution to the problem( see illegal immigration, taxes, health insurance, etc ).

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    Yeah, I'm the one looking for idiotic political blogs to prove I'm not envious. Well, as PT Barnum once said, "There's a sucker born every minute."
    Your repeated posts obsessing about justifying the right wing playing the ENVY CARD certainly prove that.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    He quotes far left liberal blogs one minute, then laughs at someone for linking to a Fox News report the next.

    It's called hypocrisy.
    Since you appear to be criticizing my posts, please provide proof of your charges or have the decency to retract them.

    If we have indeed fallen so far down the ideological rabbit hole that now someone wanting a rational discussion of national tax policy is tagged with being FAR LEFT it shows just how hopeless this situation has become.

    Q: Why don't you defend the policy instead of making ad hominem attacks on me and others here who want a rational discussion of national tax policy?
    A: Defending the tactics of the right by attacking their critics is the favored methodology as opposed to defending a indefensible policy which benefits a relatively small minority.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Since you appear to be criticizing my posts, please provide proof of your charges or have the decency to retract them.

    If we have indeed fallen so far down the ideological rabbit hole that now someone wanting a rational discussion of national tax policy is tagged with being FAR LEFT it shows just how hopeless this situation has become.

    Q: Why don't you defend the policy instead of making ad hominem attacks on me and others here who want a rational discussion of national tax policy?
    A: Defending the tactics of the right by attacking their critics is the favored methodology as opposed to defending a indefensible policy which benefits a relatively small minority.
    Pot meet kettle.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Pot meet kettle.
    Aside from using the cliche in a drive-by post devoid of substance, can you back that up?

    What do you find wrong with asking someone to back up their charges made against another poster?
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Aside from using the cliche in a drive-by post devoid of substance, can you back that up?

    What do you find wrong with asking someone to back up their charges made against another poster?
    Here's a few examples that were easily found:

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    The very idea that there are thinking individuals in the nation who actually look to FOX for news is either laughter inducing or will drive one to tears.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket
    I am sure that there are some FOX viewers who simply like the way the network looks and their on-the-air personalities. I am also sure that there are FOX viewers who watch it for the ideological and partisan spin that you get which is obvious and at times rather blatant.

    a statement like this from apdst
    Anyone that watches FNC is just as informed as someone that watches CNN, or MSNBC.
    is screaming for documentation. And, if true (and that is one gigantic IF) I wonder what it is that the FOX viewer is informed about? Birtherism? The evils of government? Obama and his TelePrompTer? Libertarian talking points?
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    FOX is a proven partner of the right wing alliance in America. This whitewash or downplaying of violent and murdersome right extremism should surprise nobody.
    And this one seems especially fitting.........

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    Self induced denial is far worse.
    You were correct for a change.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Well, now I'm thinking that Romney didn't know what he was talking about when he said "about 15%". Gingrich has released his 2010 tax forms:

    The federal tax of $994,708 amounted to 31.7 percent of their $3,142,066 adjusted gross income.

    More than three-quarters - $2,525,683 - of the Gingrichs’ personal income was from partnerships and so-called S corporations, and the couple reported $450,245 in traditional salary-type income.
    I'd make a new thread about it, but for some reason, I can't post it. The textbox in New Posts will not allow me to copy/paste. Very strange.

    Gingrich releases records showing nearly $1M in federal taxes paid on 2010 income – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    Please notice that his salary income is more than 4X greater than that of the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, the third richest man in the world, Warren Buffett.

    To those who have consistently claimed in this post that their effective tax rate is 15% or even higher, please do the math on your own tax return so you don't continue to look foolish. Here's his tax return: http://www.newt.org/sites/newt.org/f...eTaxReturn.pdf

    Take Line 60 of your own return and divide it by Line 37. Thanks.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Well, now I'm thinking that Romney didn't know what he was talking about when he said "about 15%". Gingrich has released his 2010 tax forms:



    I'd make a new thread about it, but for some reason, I can't post it. The textbox in New Posts will not allow me to copy/paste. Very strange.

    Gingrich releases records showing nearly $1M in federal taxes paid on 2010 income – CNN Political Ticker - CNN.com Blogs

    Please notice that his salary income is more than 4X greater than that of the CEO of Berkshire Hathaway, the third richest man in the world, Warren Buffett.

    To those who have consistently claimed in this post that their effective tax rate is 15% or even higher, please do the math on your own tax return so you don't continue to look foolish. Here's his tax return: http://www.newt.org/sites/newt.org/f...eTaxReturn.pdf

    Take Line 60 of your own return and divide it by Line 37. Thanks.
    Mine's never been above 10.7%.

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