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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    How in the world could anyone claim that money given to a person taxed with an estate tax is double taxation when the person getting them money never paid a penny of tax on it in the first place?

    That simply defies all logic and reality.
    I guess you still haven't figured out that the person taxed under the death tax is not the heir

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Now there is a jump from A to Z skipping all the other 24 letters in between.

    For a person to fall victim to double taxation, simple logic dictates that they must first pay tax on it at one time. People who inherit do not fall under that category since the one giving the inheritance paid the original taxes.
    So you agree then that the money has already been taxed, right?

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Its the turtledudes shell game he likes to play, he thinks that after 30 years now people haven't caught on to the scam of trickle down economics.
    envy has been with us for decades and there are still failures who blame the rich for their lack of financial success. If you want money, do something valuable that would cause others to give you some. People like me don't exist just to pour money down upon you no matter how much you complain

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    envy has been with us for decades and there are still failures who blame the rich for their lack of financial success. If you want money, do something valuable that would cause others to give you some. People like me don't exist just to pour money down upon you no matter how much you complain
    Playing the ENVY card has become standard operating procedure for the defenders of the wealthy who are unable to rationally discuss a national tax policy. It is a self given compliment and is just like the snotty high school girl who whines "don't hate me because I'm beautiful." Gimme a break already.

    The essence of envy is that you want what someone else has for yourself. Nobody here discussing a more rational tax policy for the nation has that in mind. The knee-jerk reflex of the use of the ENVY card has become really lame and the most hollow of arguments.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Meathead View Post
    So you agree then that the money has already been taxed, right?
    NEWS BULLETIN: Money is taxed time after time after time after time after time after time when it moves from one owner to a new owner to a new owner to a new owner to a new owner and on down the line.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Playing the ENVY card has become standard operating procedure for the defenders of the wealthy who are unable to rationally discuss a national tax policy. It is a self given compliment and is just like the snotty high school girl who whines "don't hate me because I'm beautiful." Gimme a break already.

    The essence of envy is that you want what someone else has for yourself. Nobody here discussing a more rational tax policy for the nation has that in mind. The knee-jerk reflex of the use of the ENVY card has become really lame and the most hollow of arguments.
    It is the most accurate description to depict the motivations of those who spend hours complaining about the rich.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    NEWS BULLETIN: Money is taxed time after time after time after time after time after time when it moves from one owner to a new owner to a new owner to a new owner to a new owner and on down the line.
    that is proper when there are transactions involving trades of services or goods for money. My employer pays me 100 dollars and I am taxed 35 dollars on that. I then take that remaining 65 dollars and buy a football I pay sales tax on that because there has been an exchange of goods for money-ie a taxable transaction where value is transfered for value. Same if I hire you to cut my lawn (you pay income taxes on my payment) because you have received pay for the commodity known as labor. Death is not a transaction where labor has been exchanged for money or money exchanged for goods or services. That is the difference and that is why your attempts to claim the death tax or the double taxation on dividends are proper is without logical merit

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It is the most accurate description to depict the motivations of those who spend hours complaining about the rich.
    I agree. Of course you'll never get haymarket to admit to envy. As obvious as it is, it would take from the high moral pedestal he imagines he's on.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    It is the most accurate description to depict the motivations of those who spend hours complaining about the rich.
    It is first a knee jerk right wing reflex employed to defend the wealthy and avoid a real discussion of a rational tax policy for a nation of 311 million people.

    Secondly, it is a pat on your own back and a self given compliment intended for self engrandizement. It allows the player of the ENVY CARD to wallow in the self imposed delusion that the rest of the world just really wants to be like them and take their so called wealth for their own.

    It is the worst sort of intellectual fraud wearing the Halloween costume of elitist snobbery.

    And if its all you got, your gun is empty.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Playing the ENVY card has become standard operating procedure for the defenders of the wealthy who are unable to rationally discuss a national tax policy. It is a self given compliment and is just like the snotty high school girl who whines "don't hate me because I'm beautiful." Gimme a break already.

    The essence of envy is that you want what someone else has for yourself. Nobody here discussing a more rational tax policy for the nation has that in mind. The knee-jerk reflex of the use of the ENVY card has become really lame and the most hollow of arguments.
    ENVY is the most obvious response from those who have less than others, and it was ever so.

    How much did you contribute to the federal government in taxes versus how much Romney contributed?

    Did you contribute as much as 15% on your tax returns?

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