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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So what do you want, a cookie? No one envies you. Nor does anyone want to raise your taxes. Actually, the argument is that you are paying too much in the way of taxes relative to those who are in the top 1%. Some of us feel kind of bad that people like you are paying a higher tax rate than someone like Mitt Romney.
    I'm not paying a higher rate than Mitt Romney. And neither are you. Thread after thread on this board talks about people complaining that the rich don't pay enough taxes...that they are a favored class. I don't pay anywhere near 15% effective tax rate on my Federal income tax. And likely neither do you. No.Where.Near.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    she isn't paying a higher tax rate than Romney on like income

    nor is she paying a higher overall federal income tax level unless she is making over 200K a year
    But she is paying higher tax rates overall isn't she? So why would it matter that she pays different types of taxes than Romney?

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    she isn't paying a higher tax rate than Romney on like income

    nor is she paying a higher overall federal income tax level unless she is making over 200K a year

    maybe she is but the fact remains if she invests she will pay less on that income than on salary and if she sells that business she will pay less as well than her earned income
    However you want to spin it, she pays a higher tax rate than Romney is paying. Now, maybe Mitt has spent some sleepless nights crying himself to sleep wondering whether or not he'll be able to raise that 15% ... but I rather doubt it.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm not paying a higher rate than Mitt Romney. And neither are you. Thread after thread on this board talks about people complaining that the rich don't pay enough taxes...that they are a favored class. I don't pay anywhere near 15% effective tax rate on my Federal income tax. And likely neither do you. No.Where.Near.
    Yeah probably not, but you definitely are paying higher tax rates total than Romney. Why would it matter that the taxes he pays are different taxes than the ones you pay?

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I'm not paying a higher rate than Mitt Romney. And neither are you. Thread after thread on this board talks about people complaining that the rich don't pay enough taxes...that they are a favored class. I don't pay anywhere near 15% effective tax rate on my Federal income tax. And likely neither do you. No.Where.Near.
    Well good for you, but I guaran****ingdamntee you that I pay a considerably higher rate than Mitt.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    However you want to spin it, she pays a higher tax rate than Romney is paying. Now, maybe Mitt has spent some sleepless nights crying himself to sleep wondering whether or not he'll be able to raise that 15% ... but I rather doubt it.
    Tax Accounting Classes! Everybody, Tax Accounting Classes! I do not pay a higher tax rate than Romney. Gads. Unbelievable. As a matter of fact, AdamT, most of my money is in Dreyfus/Putnam/Other municipal bond funds on which I pay no Federal income tax at all. Some of it is in tax-sheltered annuities I've had for years that have a 5% floor. Suhweeet. 15%? No.Where.Near. And neither do you.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Tax Accounting Classes! Everybody, Tax Accounting Classes! I do not pay a higher tax rate than Romney. Gads. Unbelievable. As a matter of fact, AdamT, most of my money is in Dreyfus/Putnam/Other municipal bond funds on which I pay no Federal income tax at all. Some of it is in tax-sheltered annuities I've had for years that have a 5% floor. Suhweeet. 15%? No.Where.Near. And neither do you.
    MaggieD, even if you're in the bottom 20% you pay a higher tax rate than Romney does. Sales taxes, property taxes, etc.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    However you want to spin it, she pays a higher tax rate than Romney is paying. Now, maybe Mitt has spent some sleepless nights crying himself to sleep wondering whether or not he'll be able to raise that 15% ... but I rather doubt it.
    I like this sort of post-

    when people criticize me for saying envy and spite motivates the leftwing posts about tax rates I can point to posts like this. She is not paying a higher rate on progressive taxes than Maggie is paying so stop lying

    its dishonest to try to mix non-progressive taxes in to confuse progressive tax rates. I realize the class envy attack on the rich tries to hide the true motivations for this illness but those of us who understand how taxes work and the legislative history behind the various taxes know damn well that not every tax was passed as a progressive tax, that there is nothing that makes "progressive taxes" better or "more fair" than other sorts of taxes etc

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    MaggieD, even if you're in the bottom 20% you pay a higher tax rate than Romney does. Sales taxes, property taxes, etc.
    wow more of the same dishonesty. mixing in non progressive taxes to try to claim non progressive overall taxes

    and you are lying again. the bottom 20% often are paying those state taxes with handouts from the government

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Tax Accounting Classes! Everybody, Tax Accounting Classes! I do not pay a higher tax rate than Romney. Gads. Unbelievable. As a matter of fact, AdamT, most of my money is in Dreyfus/Putnam/Other municipal bond funds on which I pay no Federal income tax at all. Some of it is in tax-sheltered annuities I've had for years that have a 5% floor. Suhweeet. 15%? No.Where.Near. And neither do you.
    part of being a liberal is assuming you know more about someone else's economic situation than they do themselves Maggie. that is what justifies liberals pretending they ought to run our lives when it comes to economic matters

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