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Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

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Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Not necessary, all we have to do is vote in November to end the supply side economics that is killing the country.

Where do you suppose you will go when life becomes as horrible for the rich as it was under the tax rates of the 90's?

Who are you going to vote for in November that is going to 'end the supply side economics'? NONE of those running today have any intention in doing that.
 
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Who are you going to vote for in November that is going to 'end the supply side economics'? NONE of those running today have any intention in doing that.

the guy who whines the most about the rich while getting millions from Goldman Sucks, Bain etc
 
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Just for my edification can you explain how these two revolutions which overthrew MONARCHIES applies to this country?

Historically, hunger is a primary trigger for revolutions and uprisings.

Hungry people revolt, form of government is irrelevant.

That whole "forgetting the lessons of history" thing.
 
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Historically, hunger is a primary trigger for revolutions and uprisings.

Hungry people revolt, form of government is irrelevant.

That whole "forgetting the lessons of history" thing.

the poor in the USA tend to be rather obese not starving. twinkies are their bane not hunger
 
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the guy who whines the most about the rich while getting millions from Goldman Sucks, Bain etc

OH, you mean the one that has had three years to ‘end the supply side’. But as Hay so eloquently stated ‘In each and every case they moved from a progressive position to caving in to the right.’ I guess Cat thinks something is gonna change in November...
 
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OH, you mean the one that has had three years to ‘end the supply side’. But as Hay so eloquently stated ‘In each and every case they moved from a progressive position to caving in to the right.’ I guess Cat thinks something is gonna change in November...

If Obumble wins again much will depend on who holds the senate and the house
 
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the poor in the USA tend to be rather obese not starving. twinkies are their bane not hunger

Right.

But this thread took a comment about what happens when people get desperate and turned into "threats".

From what I read it was commentary from a historical perspective, not a threat.

And all those folks in the past who had their applecarts upset were pretty sure they had nothing to worry about too.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Right.

But this thread took a comment about what happens when people get desperate and turned into "threats".

From what I read it was commentary from a historical perspective, not a threat.

And all those folks in the past who had their applecarts upset were pretty sure they had nothing to worry about too.

yeah those people didn't have 24 hour news, internet, sophisticated communication devices or serious amounts of automatic weaponry either
 
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Historically, hunger is a primary trigger for revolutions and uprisings.

Hungry people revolt, form of government is irrelevant.

That whole "forgetting the lessons of history" thing.

I would be positively surprised if the current motivation level in this country was high enough to stage a successful uprising. I mean really, it’s going to take more than camping out in city parks. Further the suggestion was to what the ‘rich’ should fear but based on the revolutions referenced the government should be in fear. I have read several ‘conspiracy theory’ type books that assert that the referenced revolutions in fact were instigated by the rich hence the phrase ‘useful idiots’.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

I would be positively surprised if the current motivation level in this country was high enough to stage a successful uprising. I mean really, it’s going to take more than camping out in city parks. Further the suggestion was to what the ‘rich’ should fear but based on the revolutions referenced the government should be in fear. I have read several ‘conspiracy theory’ type books that assert that the referenced revolutions in fact were instigated by the rich hence the phrase ‘useful idiots’.

most of the rich bashing comes from the rich on the left. they know they need votes to maintain their wealth so they pretend to support the interests of the poor when in reality they are gaining power for themselves
 
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most of the rich bashing comes from the rich on the left. they know they need votes to maintain their wealth so they pretend to support the interests of the poor when in reality they are gaining power for themselves

I'm guessing that Pretzel Logic is your favorite album?
 
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I'm guessing that Pretzel Logic is your favorite album?

I think Peg was the best of the SD albums but my favorites include

Europe 72, Grateful Dead

London Calling, The Clash

Tonight's the Night Steeleye Span

LZ One

Dreams (ABB)
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

most of the rich bashing comes from the rich on the left. they know they need votes to maintain their wealth so they pretend to support the interests of the poor when in reality they are gaining power for themselves
Turtle, the left doesn't consist of conspiring rich political elitists wanting to stay in power. Most of the 'rich bashing', as you call it, comes from the entire left and not just the rich.
 
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I think Peg was the best of the SD albums but my favorites include

Europe 72, Grateful Dead

London Calling, The Clash

Tonight's the Night Steeleye Span

LZ One

Dreams (ABB)

Can't knock your taste in music, but it doesn't answer the question as to how the rich on the left ... and apparently JUST on the left ... need votes (?) to maintain their wealth? And thus pretend to care about the poor? Fantastical.
 
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Turtle, the left doesn't consist of conspiring rich political elitists wanting to stay in power. Most of the 'rich bashing', as you call it, comes from the entire left and not just the rich.

the people who are heard tend to be the rich lefties-Obama, Buffett, Soros.

and nothing is more sinister machiavellian than watching rich dems whine about the rich
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Can't knock your taste in music, but it doesn't answer the question as to how the rich on the left ... and apparently JUST on the left ... need votes (?) to maintain their wealth? And thus pretend to care about the poor? Fantastical.

people that claim to eschew corporate wealth tend to crave government created wealth. Obama and Clinton are two examples of people who have made lots and lots of money from public office
 
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Show me any other time in the last 30 years when we reduced our budget deficit as much as we did in the 90's when both sides came together to cut spending and increase taxes?

...you do realize that the four years where the "budget was balanced" (thanks to taking money from Social Security) was after Clinton cut tax rates - specifically after he cut the capital gains tax, which is what this thread is about?

It's not the taxes. It's the spending.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

people that claim to eschew corporate wealth tend to crave government created wealth. Obama and Clinton are two examples of people who have made lots and lots of money from public office

Hmm, seems to me that Gingrich is worth more than both of them put together, thanks to his peddling his public office ass like a K Street crack whore. Both sides do it, but I think it's pretty obvious that Republicans are the biggest beneficiaries.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

...you do realize that the four years where the "budget was balanced" (thanks to taking money from Social Security) was after Clinton cut tax rates - specifically after he cut the capital gains tax, which is what this thread is about?

It's not the taxes. It's the spending.

It's not the taxes, or the spending, or the economy. It's the taxes, the spending, AND the economy.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Hmm, seems to me that Gingrich is worth more than both of them put together, thanks to his peddling his public office ass like a K Street crack whore. Both sides do it, but I think it's pretty obvious that Republicans are the biggest beneficiaries.

Newt's a pimp, but most of the GOP doesn't buy votes of the anti corporate luddites by whining about corporations and wealth
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

It's not the taxes, or the spending, or the economy. It's the taxes, the spending, AND the economy.

Its a society where too many people think government exists to give THEM what they want and paying for that is the DUTY of SOMEONE else

Until the tax system can change that attitude, we will never get rid of massive deficits.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

Its a society where too many people think government exists to give THEM what they want and paying for that is the DUTY of SOMEONE else

Until the tax system can change that attitude, we will never get rid of massive deficits.

Oddly enough we didn't have massive deficits until a conservative spent eight years slashing taxes and yammering about but not actually cutting spending. That's what Republicans do.
 
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the ONLY REASON WHY REVENUES increased was due to that massive bubble. that's why the orgasmic joy for tax hikes is idiotic

You mean the tax increases didn't hurt economic growth? Imagine that! They won't this time either!

But back to your supply side economics, where are all the jobs that the tax cuts to the rich for the last ten years was supposed to provide???

Give the middle class a reason for continuing to subsidize your tax cuts???
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

...you do realize that the four years where the "budget was balanced" (thanks to taking money from Social Security) was after Clinton cut tax rates - specifically after he cut the capital gains tax, which is what this thread is about?

It's not the taxes. It's the spending.

He cut them to a rate that is 5% higher than they are now.

It was both the spending cuts, most of which came from the military, and from the tax increases - the only time in 30 years when we have cut our deficit significantly.

When we get serious about the debt, that is what will have to be done again.
 
Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

the people who are heard tend to be the rich lefties-Obama, Buffett, Soros.

and nothing is more sinister machiavellian than watching rich dems whine about the rich
It shouldn't even matter. Politicians want to stay in power regardless of political orientation; developing some form of conspiracy that associates leftist ideology with greed shouldn't be relevant. And watching rich people saying that they themselves aren't paying enough isn't sinister; most rich people usually include themselves in their political judgements.
 
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