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    Re: Romney reveals he pays about 15% in taxes(edited)

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Go for it! A lot of that money is already overseas anyway. I'm going to hang around here with the rich people not too greedy to pony up an extra 5% on their capital gains taxes to make their country more prosperous and with the labor force that is the backbone of production. I hear Somalia is nice this time of year though! See ya!
    You don’t seem to get it. Who’s money do you think they are talking about when they discuss the ‘$2t sitting on the sidelines’? Who’s money was it that caused the stock market to plummet to around 6k in ’08. And then who’s money has been put BACK into the market to enable it to reach around 12k in the last few weeks? WE are the ones moving our money and some of us are about to retract AGAIN. What are YOU going to do about it? Whine? That'll help...

    And I asked previously what affect is this 5% going to make? With the AVERAGE annual projected realized capital gains 2010-2015 being $740b, 5% will yield $37b annually. THIS is your plan to reduce an average $1t deficit…think again.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    quit whining. to become rich these days you no longer can be big dumb and strong like factory workers could be in the 50's and make a good living. You have to have advanced technical skills and that comes with having advanced education. people who eschew education are falling behind
    And again, speaking of stupid lies.... Factory workers were never considered rich in this country. Middle class, yes. Rich? No.

    Of cours CEOs were considered to be rich in the 1970s, even though they only made approximately 30 times more than the average worker (from memory - could be off). NOW, however, CEOs make about 325 times more than the average worker! The ratio has increased by a factor of 10! Are CEOs 10x smarter and harder working now than they used to be? I don't think so. Are workers 10x stupider and lazier than they used to be? Hardly. Productivity has increased significantly.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am still wondering what Haymarket's purpose was in whining that i "introduced race" into this discussion
    Asked and answered.

    I told you it was to inform you that you introducing race into a discussion about taxation did not advance the discussion.

    What part of that do you not understand now that you have asked it several times and the answer is still the same?

    The whining here - to use one of your pet words - is being done by you and your friends on the far right.

    And where are those quotes from me where I called your post RACIST in this thread as you allege? Better yet, where is your apology for making false allegations about me?
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Of cours CEOs were considered to be rich in the 1970s, even though they only made approximately 30 times more than the average worker (from memory - could be off). NOW, however, CEOs make about 325 times more than the average worker!
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And again, speaking of stupid lies.... Factory workers were never considered rich in this country. Middle class, yes. Rich? No.

    Of cours CEOs were considered to be rich in the 1970s, even though they only made approximately 30 times more than the average worker (from memory - could be off). NOW, however, CEOs make about 325 times more than the average worker! The ratio has increased by a factor of 10! Are CEOs 10x smarter and harder working now than they used to be? I don't think so. Are workers 10x stupider and lazier than they used to be? Hardly. Productivity has increased significantly.
    two factory workers who bought a home together at the right time and invested in a company pension could easily be considered rich by your master when they retired.

    if you don't like what CEO's are paid buy a company and pay your CEO less or get enough votes to demand that the board reduce pay. that is the proper way to do that. its not the government's role to do that or to tax those who do well just to make people like you feel less butt-hurt about not being well paid as those executives

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Asked and answered.

    I told you it was to inform you that you introducing race into a discussion about taxation did not advance the discussion.

    What part of that do you not understand now that you have asked it several times and the answer is still the same?

    The whining here - to use one of your pet words - is being done by you and your friends on the far right.

    And where are those quotes from me where I called you a RACIST in this thread as you allege? Better yet, where is your apology for making false allegations about me?
    I was hoping for an honest answer-one that I already knew but coming from you

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I was hoping for an honest answer-one that I already knew but coming from you
    Why would my answer be different now that the nine words I gave you last night and every time you have brought up the same question?
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Turtle - go and read Maggies excellent post about this nonsense.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why would my answer be different now that the nine words I gave you last night and every time you have brought up the same question?
    I guess what several of us were looking for was an explanation of the intent behind your comment

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I guess what several of us were looking for was an explanation of the intent behind your comment
    The intent was to NOT make this something other than a discussion about taxation. But thanks to you and post 1267 - that went down the crapper. Congratulations.

    You really need to read post 1513 by Maggie. It was perfection.
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