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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I read your post. You started talking about the need for tax justice. Then you gave us seven lines, most of which are either the opposite of that or extremist memes.

    When will you get to the tax justice part?
    tax justice is not more schemes to buy the votes of losers, the unlucky and the unambitious.

    tax justice is balancing "from each according to their ability" which is the only basis you lefties use with a tax system that will make everyone suffer when the government spends too much and will make everyone face tax hikes when they try to jack up the rates on others

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    And around and around we go.... The rich are richer now relative to everyone else than they've been since the 1920s. This is like a corporation complaining because it's making too much money.
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    guess what-every year Nadal plays tennis he makes increases his wealth too

    of course we are getting richer. if you have money to invest after you pay your taxes and your required spending, you will increase your wealth

    the only way to stop that is to increase taxes so much that no one has any money left to invest. anyone who tries to do that is going to be wasted rather quickly

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    tax justice is not more schemes to buy the votes of losers, the unlucky and the unambitious.

    tax justice is balancing "from each according to their ability" which is the only basis you lefties use with a tax system that will make everyone suffer when the government spends too much and will make everyone face tax hikes when they try to jack up the rates on others
    .... as opposed to the Republican plan, which makes 99% of Americans suffer so we can have MORE massive tax cuts for the rich.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Centinel View Post
    I'm not saying that he is a racist. I am pointing out that he was the one who introduced the word "race" into this thread.
    Turtle introduced the words black and white in talking about racial differences twice in his post 1267 and was the first to introduce the topic of race here. If you cannot see that, your intellectual limitations are even worse than you previously admitted to when you said you knew one thing.

    If I spit into your face but never use the word spit and you chastise me for "spitting into face" - by your standards I can then rip into you for being the one to introduce the 'spit'. Your illogic makes the world of Alice In Wonderland look like basic common sense.

    You do not even make the least bit of sense with this inane defense of another poster bringing race into the topic of taxation.

    i made one post of nine words

    Bringing race into this does not advance the discussion.
    Since then the warriors of the right have made scores and scores of them attacking the idea that I was the one who made the error rather than the one who introduced the racial component into the discussion.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    .... as opposed to the Republican plan, which makes 99% of Americans suffer so we can have MORE massive tax cuts for the rich.
    more stupid lies. how does the 99 suffer? are you saying that the rich who pay 40% of the income tax-the highest amount in 6 decades, hurt the others by paying that much? Your problem is you think that the rich exist to fund everyone else. what hurts the middle class is 60 years of them becoming dependent on more and more government and them thinking that the rich have a duty to pay high taxes so they can pay artificially low taxes

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    guess what-every year Nadal plays tennis he makes increases his wealth too

    of course we are getting richer. if you have money to invest after you pay your taxes and your required spending, you will increase your wealth

    the only way to stop that is to increase taxes so much that no one has any money left to invest. anyone who tries to do that is going to be wasted rather quickly
    Nadal? What a silly analogy. The fact is that rich today are much richer RELATIVE TO EVERYONE ELSE than they have been since the 1920s.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Turtle introduced the words black and white in talking about racial differences twice in his post 1267 and was the first to introduce the topic of race here. If you cannot see that, your intellectual limitations are even worse than you previously admitted to when you said you knew one thing.

    If I spit into your face but never use the word spit and you chastise me for "spitting into face" - by your standards I can then rip into you for being the one to introduce the 'spit'. Your illogic makes the world of Alice In Wonderland look like basic common sense.

    You do not even make the least bit of sense with this inane defense of another poster bringing race into the topic of taxation.
    You're so funny. Turtle didn't spit in anyone's face.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Turtle introduced the words black and white in talking about racial differences twice in his post 1267 and was the first to introduce the topic of race here. If you cannot see that, your intellectual limitations are even worse than you previously admitted to when you said you knew one thing.

    If I spit into your face but never use the word spit and you chastise me for "spitting into face" - by your standards I can then rip into you for being the one to introduce the 'spit'. Your illogic makes the world of Alice In Wonderland look like basic common sense.

    You do not even make the least bit of sense with this inane defense of another poster bringing race into the topic of taxation.
    Your dishonest take on my analogy is pathetic and others have called you on it. I was merely noting that "Truthful" comments about facts can still lead to dishonest comparisons. So I picked two groups, white criminals and black criminals and created a hypothetical

    that HYPOTHETICAL being IF black MURDERERS Get more years than WHITE criminals who are convicted of less serious crimes, it would be a truthful statement to say those black criminals were punished more harshly than the white criminals but it would be dishonest to use that truthful observation to CONCLUDE that the justice system treats blacks worse than whites. I could have used asian and hispanic, male or female, straight or gay for the same analogy You clearly tried to attack my post because

    1) you could not deny my analogy was accurate when applied to the dishonest comparison of THE ENTIRE Tax bill of a 50K a year earner with one tax applied to the income of a rich investor.

    2) but you felt a need to respond so you insinuated I was making a racist argument when everyone else knows and saw that was a dishonest creation on your part

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    tax justice is not more schemes to buy the votes of losers, the unlucky and the unambitious.

    tax justice is balancing "from each according to their ability" which is the only basis you lefties use with a tax system that will make everyone suffer when the government spends too much and will make everyone face tax hikes when they try to jack up the rates on others
    And still no real mention of anything approaching tax justice for 311 million Americans.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    That reminds me, I wanted to thank you. You, and those like you could have provided no better example of why it was so important for the working class to stand up and fight back against the class war being waged on the working class.

    So for that, I thank you!
    Youíre truly welcome for that. Now since you seem to be so profoundly motivated letís see you get out there and make a difference. It will take MUCH more effort than posting random crap on an anonymous debate board or camping out in parks. Letís see if you can REALLY back up that strong talk. Weíve made ours now you go see what you CAN do.

    Good luck with that!

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