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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You must be gazing into the mirror again.
    YEeeeeeeeeesss!!! The DP equivalent of "I know you are but what am I!" Thats frekin STUNNING baby!!!

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Raising the capital gains tax rate will equally affect the super wealthy of both parties, will it not?
    And democrats were TRIPPING over themselves to do it when they controlled the house, senate, and WH...just like today...when they all say..."golly...we sure would LOVE for you to force us to do more. But...well...in the meantime...I will make sure my accountants keep me flush!"

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And democrats were TRIPPING over themselves to do it when they controlled the house, senate, and WH...just like today...when they all say..."golly...we sure would LOVE for you to force us to do more. But...well...in the meantime...I will make sure my accountants keep me flush!"
    We were in recession when Dems controlled both houses. Never a good time for any kind of tax hike.

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I'll try to spell it out for you, hell I'll even number them for you as is your custom:

    1. When you add the federal income tax that Romney paid along with the Federal payroll taxes he paid, he owes 13.9% of his income in taxes.

    2. When you add the federal income tax that someone making $50,000 paid along with the Federal payroll taxes he paid, he owes 22% of his income in taxes.
    your post is still clueless I see about taxes. Romney's income tax report DOES NOT INCLUDE

    1) state income taxes
    2) state property taxes
    3) state sales taxes
    4) hotel and airport taxes
    5) excise taxes
    6) gasoline taxes

    the payroll taxes were not designed to be progressive

    sorry you lose again
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by mertex View Post
    When I hear someone defend the Bush tax cuts I know I am dealing with a Sheeple.


    Maybe if those who pay the most (as you claim) would raise the income of those who pay no income tax (as you claim), those who pay no income tax (as you claim) would make more than the bare minimum, and those who pay the most (as you claim) wouldn't take more of it and would then not pay the most.

    But the reasoning of conservatives, as uttered by Joe Walsh in support of Gingrich, is that there should be no tax for capital gains - then all those uber wealthy people, who are benefitting from the Bush tax cuts, wouldn't have to worry if the Bush tax cuts were done away with, because they could claim all their income from capital gains and pay not taxes at all - then they would be able to say they are just like the poor people, who pay no taxes. Because, after all, the poor could take advantage of capital gains just the same as them, since that is what conservative logic amounts to.
    a hard core far lefty calling anyone a sheeple is as silly as Newt calling someone an "adulterer" .
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is just silly Turtle. Its about two things
    1 - needed revenue to offset deficits
    2- tax justice for a better America
    tax justice is needed

    1) those who demand more and more government need to start paying for it rather than voting for those who promise them that OTHERS will be taxed more

    2) everyone should keep the same amount of their next dollar as taken by the federal government

    3) the federal government should butt out of the thousands of areas where it should not be engaging in wasting our tax dollaras

    4) what you use should be as important in figuring your tax bill as to what you supposedly can afford

    5) the system needs to be reformed so that a majority of citizens cannot merely vote up the rates of others without also suffering the same rate increase

    6) transfers of wealth in a family should never ever be a taxable event unless there is a clear exchange of goods and services

    7) we have plenty of revenue, we have too much government

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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It has been calculated that if the federal government were to increase every single tax by 30% it would take 25 years to balance the books BUT only if the government stopped spending more money. And what is the likelihood of that?

    You can kiss the idea of a "better America" goodbye. That's gone and you pissed it away.



    Benjamin Franklin was said to have been asked, “Well, Doctor, what have we got—a Republic or a Monarchy?”

    To which he replied, “A Republic, if you can keep it.”

    He seems to have had some foreboding about this generation of Americans.
    the tax hikers' main desire is for their party to keep winning elections and they don't care what it does to America in the long run.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    And democrats were TRIPPING over themselves to do it when they controlled the house, senate, and WH...just like today...when they all say..."golly...we sure would LOVE for you to force us to do more. But...well...in the meantime...I will make sure my accountants keep me flush!"
    They did not control a super majority proof congress, do you think the working class have forgotten that?
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    The theory of the Communists may be summed up in the single sentence: Abolition of private property.

    KARL MARX, The Communist Manifesto


    j-mac
    what we are dealing with are economic vandals. They realize they don't have what it takes to be wealthy so they want the government to punish those who do have that skill, desire or ability. As I noted long ago, afflicting the comfortable (ie punish the most productive) is what truly motivates this group that constantly clamors for more taxes on others.
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    Re: Romney's tax rate is only half as high as the middle class pays

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Now "race" is a dirty word?? Post after post trying to pin using the word "race" on someone?? I don't care what you point to, Centinel. One thing I know: Haymarket is not a racist. OMG.
    I'm not saying that he is a racist. I am pointing out that he was the one who introduced the word "race" into this thread.

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