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Thread: Perry Files Emergency Motion to Get on Virginia Primary Ballot(edited)

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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Paul and Romney both figured out Virginias apparently OH so complex election laws...as has every other major candidate from BOTH parties throughout the last 150 years or so...
    I agree. The rules are simple and were not sprung on the candidates at the last minute. They have been around for a while, and over many election cycles candidates have managed. Two did this time.

    The rules: 10000 signatures. The election commission recommends submitting 15,000. At least 400 from each congressional district. Must be collected by legitimate Virginia voters.

    So, the question in my mind is whether you really want a president who cannot even follow these simple rules.

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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Its not the states responsibility to get anyone on the ballot...it is the responsibility of the candidate to follow the rules and file within appropriate deadlines with appropriate numbers of signtures. It prevents people like you or ne from saying HEY!!! I wanna be on the ballot!!! Add me! It requires the tiniest amount of application of effort on behalf of candidates.
    That's it. Perry and the others have no one to blame but themselves.
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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    Why not?

    I'm not really concerned with the ballot reading like a phone book. At this point primary ballots could probably be digitalized, which would make finding the candidate you came to vote for easy.

    The failure to meet a signature requirement shows a stunning lack of organization, but the requirement should serve an important purpose, because it limits the right of people to pick the candidate of their choice. I'm not sure what purpose the signature requirement serves in this day and age, when it probably doesn't take long at all to craft a ballot form.
    Well, you may not be concerned about the ballot looking like a phone book, but I'm guessing the voters just might be. Just out of curiousity, would you have any limits on who appears on the ballot? Two hundred? Two thousand? Anybody with a business who wants to get his name out there? Are you willing to extend election day to say - election week - just so each voter has the opportunity to make his or her way through the pages and pages of names? I'm also assuming you are willing to spend the money it would cost to print all of those pages and ou'd be willing to fund the technology needed to invent voting equiptment that could handle two thousand - or ten thousand - candidates for an office.

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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So you don't believe that people should have the right to vote for anyone they see fit?
    I don't know about him, but I'd support allowing write in votes for any candidate. I would not support allowing unrestricted ballot access to anybody who just wants a little publicity. God knows there are enough of those folks around.

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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Every other state seems to have figured out a way to get the right guys on the ballot.
    And all of them have some sort of ballot access requirement. It's not that complicated. Especially for people who think they're smart enough to be President of the United States.

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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Because Gingrich, Santorum, and Perry are not serious candidates?
    So it would seem. They're not serious enough to put together an organization that's capable of following the rules in all 50 states.

    Running for President is serious business. It's hard to win if you run a half-assed campaign.

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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Time for these guys to man up. Their campaign managers didn't do what the Commonwealth of Viriginia requires and therefore they can't be on the ballot. If you wanted to be on the ballot, make sure your people were doing their damn jobs.
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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Excuse me!

    Perry is a three time elected Governor of the second largest, in area and population, State in the Union and is the 13th Largest economy in the world. The State of Texas is more successful than the other 49 ( 56 in some circles) combined.
    And he didn't give a **** enough to get himself on the ballot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    So you don't believe that people should have the right to vote for anyone they see fit?
    Irrelevant. No voting rights have been taken from anyone. You can vote for Mickey Mouse if you like.
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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Perry Files Emergency Motion to Get on Virginia Primary Ballot - Businessweek

    And good riddance.

    With any luck, the people of Virginia will now be able to vote for whomever they please, and not be forced to vote for Romney as some undemocratic elements would like to have happen.

    If this appeal is successful, it will be a victory for democracy in the commonwealth of Virginia.
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    Re: Perry, Gingrich, Santorum APPEAL unfair Virginia ruling keeping them off ballot..

    Quote Originally Posted by soccerboy22 View Post
    Time for these guys to man up. Their campaign managers didn't do what the Commonwealth of Viriginia requires and therefore they can't be on the ballot. If you wanted to be on the ballot, make sure your people were doing their damn jobs.
    I would still appeal it for the chance to get on the ballot. I don't buy into their arguments, but it's still a good idea to appeal. "Manning up" would just lead to further stupidity.
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