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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Except Kipps DUI has nothing to do with drug testing. Unless you can show where HB464 has something...ANYTHING to do with DUIs or for that matter the recipients of assistance in Georgia being denied assistance because of alcohol and/or DUIs you are simply doing what you always do...labelling him a hypocrite over one thing because he made a mistake (one which he can and should be punished for) in an entirely different arena. On the plus side...you are in 'good' company.
    Yes it does. Kipp sponsored a bill dealing with substance abuse with people on welfare, and here he is, abusing substances himself.
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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Of course they have something to do with each other. A substance abuser who wants to test the down-and-out for substance abuse is a hypocrite. End of story.
    He was tested for drug abuse and so should anyone who is receiving taxpayer money be tested for drug abuse. Because he was tested it only underscores the idea that all are equal under the law. What difference does it make if a drug abuser is "down-and-out"? Does that give the license to spend taxpayers dollars on drugs?

    As far as testing those applying for public assistance, there is no basis that I'm aware to think that they are any more likely to use drugs than anyone else.
    In fact it is easy to identify if they have a history of drug abuse and, of course, there are visual aids.
    So why should people who are obviously strapped for cash have to pay to have themselves tested for drugs (as the Kipper would require)?
    Perhaps it might discourage those who are thought to be using drugs? Just a guess.

    Do you suppose the Kipper will reimburse the state for his multiple tests?
    If he is fined, as well he might, the State will be reimbursed.

    Having admitted that he was over the limit and that he lied to police, will he henceforth refuse to take his salary, which is after all paid for by taxpayers?
    Just how do you expect me to know that???

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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Why don't we leave Clinton out of this? This thread isn't about Clinton.

    Quite right. This isn't about Bill Clinton, his lies to the American people or the Grand Jury or his eventual impeachment.

    As far as Kipp being a hypocrite, that he definitely is. It is no different than Ted Haggard telling gays that they are going to hell while he is doing meth and having sex with a gay prostitute, or Larry Craig legislating against gays while having a dick in his own mouth.
    What?? Now, speaking of hypocrisy, in the next paragraph you are bringing in Ted Haggard and Larry Craig, two people who are also not connected to this thread. Why not mention Barney Frank running a Gay prostitution ring out of his apartment if you're going to scatter names around?

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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes it does. Kipp sponsored a bill dealing with substance abuse with people on welfare, and here he is, abusing substances himself.
    In fact there is no evidence that he was abusing substances. If you have it let's see it.

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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Yes it does. Kipp sponsored a bill dealing with substance abuse with people on welfare, and here he is, abusing substances himself.
    Kips proposed legislation does not deny anyone benefits for using alcohol, nor does it apply to individuals with DUIs. Kips legislation doesnt exclude him from having to submit to DUI testing while driving. Kip made a mistake...a legal violation which he will have to atone for. Nothing more and nothing less. But hey...its OK...I get it...I know where you are coming from.

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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    In fact there is no evidence that he was abusing substances. If you have it let's see it.
    Alcohol isn't a substance?

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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by upsideguy View Post
    Cut her some slack.... she is dealing with the fact that the Republican presidential field is a mess. They are forced to go with Romney and, despite having a ton of money to spend, he is going down in flames in November. That's enough to make any Republican have two or three too many.
    Here's your chance to make some big bucks come next November. Rather than just talk the talk you can actually put some money on your favorite candidate.

    You may as well bet the farm because BHO has made sure it isn't worth as much now anyway.

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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Alcohol isn't a substance?
    Did you notice that the word 'substance' was followed by the word 'abuse'?

    Clarify this for yourself and then respond if you choose.

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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Did you notice that the word 'substance' was followed by the word 'abuse'?

    Clarify this for yourself and then respond if you choose.
    Drinking beyond the legal limit and driving a car does not equal abuse for you?

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    Re: State Rep. Kip Smith charged with DUI in Buckhead

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Alcohol isn't a substance?
    Driving while impaired is a legal matter...something he will and should have to face. It is not in and of itself substance 'abuse'. Alcohol use is not illegal, nor is inebriation 'abuse'. As a mental health issue there are multiple categories...alcohol intoxication, alcohol abuse, alcohol dependence. Dood made a mistake...do you have some sort of evidence or at least ANYTHING that meets criteria for dependence or abuse? Again...have you ever even bothered to READ HB464? Both of you continue to engage in entirely idiotic and partisan driven rhetoric. Pretty pathetic, and yet...so very typical.

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