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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    I don't see the hub-bub behind the outrage against the captain.

    What, is he supposed to go down with the ship and die?

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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't see the hub-bub behind the outrage against the captain.

    What, is he supposed to go down with the ship and die?
    It is maritime tradition that the Captain is among the very last to leave a sinking ship.
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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It is maritime tradition that the Captain is among the very last to leave a sinking ship.
    Tradition that may be, but if it places the captain's life in danger, I don't think he should have to die.

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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    I don't see the hub-bub behind the outrage against the captain.

    What, is he supposed to go down with the ship and die?
    No, but he is supposed to organize the people to get off the ship as safely as they can. There obviously was time for him to do so since the coast guard captain said that he had been arguing with him for about an hour about returning to the ship to help get the rest of the people off it.

    A Captain no longer has to go down with their ship but they most certainly should be one of the very last people off and certainly shouldn't leave before all living passengers are off the ship. This guy had to be off before a good number of the passengers if they were still trying to rescue them an hour after the Coast Guard started fighting with him to go back and work to get the rest of the people off.
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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Tradition that may be, but if it places the captain's life in danger, I don't think he should have to die.
    It's his responsibility to ensure the safety of his passengers and crew. Every captain knows that.

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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    This very reminiscent of the Oceanos sinking off of S. Africa. Luckily, due to a a brave guitarist and cruise director, no lives were lost. Sadly, Captain Yiannis Avranas received no punishment and actually went on to skipper a ferry in Greece.

    I doubt the Italians will be so lenient. The captain is scum. By no means do I expect a "captain to go down in with the ship" in the modern era of sailing but to be the first one off and actually wanting to run away is wholeheartedly unacceptable.

    I'd also bet the requirements for a muster drill will go from "24 hours from departure" to "prior to departure" when this is all said and done. Strange though, most cruise lines conduct this drill once the lines are are off the dock.

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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Tradition that may be, but if it places the captain's life in danger, I don't think he should have to die.
    He, nor his second, should have left to begin with before the passengers are off. And he certainly seems to have little problem allowing others to risk dying in his place in going aboard to rescue those still trying to abandon ship.
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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Tradition that may be, but if it places the captain's life in danger, I don't think he should have to die.
    If it places the captain's life in danger? How about the other 4,000 passengers who were on the ship? Many captains have gone down with their ships adhering to this important tradition. So not only is the captain a stupid idiot for causing the accident in the first place, but he is a coward.
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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Tradition that may be, but if it places the captain's life in danger, I don't think he should have to die.
    The captain of a vessel carrying precious cargo (humans, most of which have no experience at sea) is overall responsible for them. He diddled around for an hour before he left the ship. The passenger were told to return to their cabins. This totally contradictory to the training these guys receive. The passengers should have been told to remain at the their muster stations until its determined whether the situation can be controlled or not. That determination could have been made pretty damn quick considering the bilge alarm panel would be lit up like a Christmas tree.

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    Re: Cruise Ship sinks!

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    No, but he is supposed to organize the people to get off the ship as safely as they can. There obviously was time for him to do so since the coast guard captain said that he had been arguing with him for about an hour about returning to the ship to help get the rest of the people off it.

    A Captain no longer has to go down with their ship but they most certainly should be one of the very last people off and certainly shouldn't leave before all living passengers are off the ship. This guy had to be off before a good number of the passengers if they were still trying to rescue them an hour after the Coast Guard started fighting with him to go back and work to get the rest of the people off.
    I see.

    That changes my perspective a bit.

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