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    Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    WASHINGTON – President Barack Obama will ask Congress on Friday for greater power to shrink the federal government, and his first idea is merging six sprawling trade and commerce agencies whose overlapping programs can be baffling to businesses, a senior administration official told The Associated Press.Obama will call on Congress to give him a type of reorganizational power last held by a president when Ronald Reagan was in office. The Obama version would be a so-called consolidation authority allowing him to propose mergers that promise to save money and help consumers. The deal would entitle him to an up-or-down vote from Congress in 90 days.

    Read more: Obama Seeks 'consolidation Authority' To Merge Agencies | Fox News

    Yeah, this is just a crass political ploy. "Hey America, the Republican's don't want a smaller government see, they aren't giving me the ability to get the job done for you!" OR if the power is grants, it also requires the Congress APPROVE said plans Obama proposes, which means he can slip in things that just won't fly, and say "See look America, I tried but the GOP is standing in the way of better Government"

    Brilliant from a political stand point, disgusting from any other. Obama's abuses of power demand he NOT be given MORE power. Especially after he **** on the Constitution by declaring he had the power to claim when Congress is in session or not. That's not how Separation of Powers works.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    So let me get this straight. Anything that Obama says or do, regardless of what party it favors you will b****.


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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Who has the authority now to create or end departments? Is it something that the legislature drafts and votes on first, then signed by the president? If that's the case then what he SHOULD do is submit a proposal to the legislature outlining what he wants done and follow proper procedure instead of asking for more authority. Personally, I think this could blow up on him. There are already those who are (with modest success) convincing the electorate that Obama is power-hungry and "taking over". Asking for or taking MORE power will hardly benefit him.

    That said, I agree with the premise of downsizing/consolidating. I've been calling for such measures to reduce redundancies and eliminate the delays and red-tape involved in cross-department interactions, so kudos to Obama for taking a step on that. I still don't like his proposed method of doing such...nor do I like that Reagan did it....at least if it bucks standard check-and-balance procedures.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by rcart76 View Post
    So let me get this straight. Anything that Obama says or do, regardless of what party it favors you will b****.


    You just proved my point... I thank you. Of course, I have said rock on when Obama's done things I agree with, but don't let that fact piss all over your avoidance of the issue at hand.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Who has the authority now to create or end departments? Is it something that the legislature drafts and votes on first, then signed by the president? If that's the case then what he SHOULD do is submit a proposal to the legislature outlining what he wants done and follow proper procedure instead of asking for more authority. Personally, I think this could blow up on him. There are already those who are (with modest success) convincing the electorate that Obama is power-hungry and "taking over". Asking for or taking MORE power will hardly benefit him.

    That said, I agree with the premise of downsizing/consolidating. I've been calling for such measures to reduce redundancies and eliminate the delays and red-tape involved in cross-department interactions, so kudos to Obama for taking a step on that. I still don't like his proposed method of doing such...nor do I like that Reagan did it....at least if it bucks standard check-and-balance procedures.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Why can't Congress merge these agencies?

    We don't need the President to take on extraordinary powers to do what Congress should do.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    There's nothing stopping him from proposing such consolidation now. There doesn't need to be a new "power" to do this.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Obama's saying, "but you wanted smaller government and me to cut spending?" Yeh, right only if they get to pick the cuts. I see it as, "these aren't the social programs we'd like to cut" coming from the republican congessional majority. Haven't they more or less sworn to say to "no" to everything that comes from Obama. I hope he has them over a barrel.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    I can see why it would piss you off that a president would propose something that would shrink the federal government and save taxpayer dollars. Conservatives hate that kind of thing... when they are proposed by Democrats of course...

    It's hard not to laugh at people like you, lol.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Did anyone actually read the article? As it plainly states:

    1. This isn't unprecedented -- Reagan enjoyed the same authority. Did conservatives oppose it then?

    2. The President proposes the changes and then Congress gets an up or down vote on them. He can't do anything unilaterally.

    Why do it this way instead of the usual process? First, it makes more sense for the proposal to come from the executive branch, given that these are structural changes in the executive branch. Second, it's a fast-track process that would help avoid the gridlock we've been seeing for the last two years.

    It's political? Yes, in the sense that it's an attempt to work around the purely political wall that Republicans have thrown up to block almost everything that the President proposes. It's another opportunity for Republican to prove that they are in Washington to improve government and not just to beat Obama. Tick tock....
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