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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I guess we should tell the press to stop calling it fast track authority then.
    Perhaps they should, because they've obviously got at least one person confused.

    This is about a specific power, not general Fast Track. That didn't end in 1984.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    So let me see if I have this correct. Republicans are angry because Obama is... not going around the checks and balances system?

    At this point, if it turned out that Obama was Jesus, you guys would all become Jews in order to oppose him.
    Odd that a socialist isn't cheering the Republicans on in this case. It's hard to tell who the hypocrites are.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Perhaps they should, because they've obviously got at least one person confused.

    This is about a specific power, not general Fast Track. That didn't end in 1984.
    "General" fast track was also about a specific -- but different power.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Libs. As Obama hasn't given a flying **** about shrinking Government, or reducing the deficit, or debt, since he took office, tell us what is different now ?

    Might I suggest .... nothing ?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Libs. As Obama hasn't given a flying **** about shrinking Government, or reducing the deficit, or debt, since he took office, tell us what is different now ?

    Might I suggest .... nothing ?
    Uh, he proposed $4.4 trillion in deficit reductions. That remains the largest serious proposal for deficit reduction any party has put forward. The only one that is higher was Ryan's joke plan. The rest of the Republican proposals, and even the other Democrats's proposals have all been smaller. He just the other day proposed cutting the military back to pre-Bush war size. He is pushing to get government out of marriage. Etc.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Uh, he proposed $4.4 trillion in deficit reductions. That remains the largest serious proposal for deficit reduction any party has put forward. The only one that is higher was Ryan's joke plan. The rest of the Republican proposals, and even the other Democrats's proposals have all been smaller. He just the other day proposed cutting the military back to pre-Bush war size. He is pushing to get government out of marriage. Etc.
    I was able to read Ryan's 'Path to Properity' and it took some pretty broad generalizations. It also predicted the debt would breach $20t ultimately. However I have been unable to find a WRITTEN copy of the proposal that included the $4.4t deficit reductions you claim. Please direct me to this if you would.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Uh, he proposed $4.4 trillion in deficit reductions. That remains the largest serious proposal for deficit reduction any party has put forward. The only one that is higher was Ryan's joke plan. The rest of the Republican proposals, and even the other Democrats's proposals have all been smaller. He just the other day proposed cutting the military back to pre-Bush war size. He is pushing to get government out of marriage. Etc.
    Oh Jeez. Ryan (R-WI, House) proposed $6T in reductions. Coburn (R-OK, Senate) proposed $10 T in cuts. Obama proposed fantasy cuts with mega increases in taxes. I would say that only idiots give Obama's proposals credibiity at this point, but also acknowledge that I am extremely disheartened that we have so many idiots, mostly liberal, in the USA.

    Obama's deficit projections, through 2020, are such that the lowest one (to include his first three now behind us) is higher that any single deficit by any prior President. And I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that none of those deficits will come under projection while this inept asshole is President, and it won't be close.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    In this thread, conservatives are upset about downsizing government.

    Next up, conservatives complain that the government is too big.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Oh Jeez. Ryan (R-WI, House) proposed $6T in reductions. Coburn (R-OK, Senate) proposed $10 T in cuts. Obama proposed fantasy cuts with mega increases in taxes. I would say that only idiots give Obama's proposals credibiity at this point, but also acknowledge that I am extremely disheartened that we have so many idiots, mostly liberal, in the USA.
    You thought Ryan's budget was a serious proposal? It was opposed more than 2 to 1 by the country. It basically just amounted to dismantling the federal government except for the military. Obviously everybody knew it wouldn't really happen. They just passed it so they could say they did without having to worry that it would actually happen.

    What "fantasy cuts" do you mean? That's just something right wingers say because they don't want to acknowledge cuts that Democrats propose... And, yeah, of course it included tax hikes for the super rich. There are three fronts of deficit reduction- domestic spending, military spending and revenues. The Democrats are coming in so much higher because they're willing to tackle all three where the Republicans are only willing to address one of them.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Obama's deficit projections, through 2020, are such that the lowest one (to include his first three now behind us) is higher that any single deficit by any prior President. And I'll bet you a dollar to a donut that none of those deficits will come under projection while this inept asshole is President, and it won't be close.
    You know about inflation and the the GDP grows over time, so you tell me- what is wrong with your statement?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Uh, he proposed $4.4 trillion in deficit reductions. That remains the largest serious proposal for deficit reduction any party has put forward. The only one that is higher was Ryan's joke plan. The rest of the Republican proposals, and even the other Democrats's proposals have all been smaller. He just the other day proposed cutting the military back to pre-Bush war size. He is pushing to get government out of marriage. Etc.
    I've already replied to this. You completely ignore the Balanced Budget Amendment included in nearly every single Republican proposal. That remains the most serious proposal combating future deficits. It has been roundly rejected by the Democrats.
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