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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Well, that doesn't follow, but even if it did . . . so?
    Well, it does follow, so if it's not much of a power there's not much to worry about.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Well, it does follow, so if it's not much of a power there's not much to worry about.
    No, it doesn't, because there are a lot of ways to do the same thing. Reagan was dead-set on burying the Soviet Union; did he ever launch any bombers at them?

    If it's not much to worry about, then 1) why bother with it, and 2) why make a big stink if someone objects to it? Your reach here exceeds your grasp.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    He's already proposed one particular consolidation.
    If it's only one, then there's not much of a need to create a new power.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, it doesn't, because there are a lot of ways to do the same thing. Reagan was dead-set on burying the Soviet Union; did he ever launch any bombers at them?

    If it's not much to worry about, then 1) why bother with it, and 2) why make a big stink if someone objects to it? Your reach here exceeds your grasp.
    So you're saying that Reagan shrank the size of government by other means? Because if he did I missed it.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    So you're saying that Reagan shrank the size of government by other means? Because if he did I missed it.
    I said nothing about what Reagan did or didn't do other than a) I don't think he used that power (if he did, cite it), b) he didn't try to renew that power, and c) he didn't bomb the USSR.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I said nothing about what Reagan did or didn't do other than a) I don't think he used that power (if he did, cite it), b) he didn't try to renew that power, and c) he didn't bomb the USSR.
    Reagan did indeed use Fast Track authority, but he seems to have used it in the area of trade rather than to shrink government.

    The Rise and Fall of Fast Track: Regime 5 - 1975-2008

    Seems to be a much more complex subject than I realized.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Reagan did indeed use Fast Track authority, but he seems to have used it in the area of trade rather than to shrink government.

    The Rise and Fall of Fast Track: Regime 5 - 1975-2008

    Seems to be a much more complex subject than I realized.
    We aren't talking about Fast Track.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Oh the utter hypocrisy of it all. If a Republican did this or proposed this it would be getting rave reviews from republicans and those on the right.
    Did you people completely miss the fact that I specifically said I didn't like Reagan doing it anymore than Obama doing it if it in anyway inhibits the checks-and-balances system? Of course you did..'cause it wouldn't be possible to make stupid claims of hypocrisy (based on absolutely no supporting posts, mind you) if you actually looked at what was and wasn't said.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    We aren't talking about Fast Track.
    I guess we should tell the press to stop calling it fast track authority then.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Its just rearraqnging deck chairs on the Titanic if, at the end of the day, he' still running Obama deficits (that have more digits than any prior deficit in the Universe).

    So, which seat would you like as you drown ?

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