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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    That has nothing to do with the power to consolidate agencies and it's not a blank check. It was a pre-approved debt limit increase.
    Correction: Pre-approved blank check. Feel better?
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Correction: Pre-approved blank check. Feel better?
    hehe...no not better. A blank check is a blank check. Giving pre-authority for x amount and requiring him to get "approved" at certain thresholds is not a blank check.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Problem is, it wasn't Congress's power to give.
    Then you can cite where the Supreme Court struck it down???
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Then you can cite where the Supreme Court struck it down???
    Can you cite where in the Constitution Congress has the authority ???
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Can you cite where in the Constitution Congress has the authority ???
    Can you cite the paragraph(s) in the Constitution that this scheme would violate?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Can you cite the paragraph(s) in the Constitution that this scheme would violate?
    I'm not talking about this "scheme" I'm referring to the 50 years of giving power to the Executive branch, which was a statement made by liveonramen.
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    This has actually become almost comical, if it weren't so tragic.

    Saving $3 billion over 10 years, while the government spends much more than that in one day, is now called "streamlining the government"!
    This is but one piece of the spending cuts that will be needed. For example, large military spending cuts will also be needed and some have already been proposed. How much did the GOP save with their big spending cut, eliminating funding for NPR????

    And you see no advantages to business in this proposal?
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Can you cite where in the Constitution Congress has the authority ???
    The Constitutionality of it was never challenged. If you think you've got a case against it, there is a process for you to follow.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    This is but one piece of the spending cuts that will be needed. For example, large military spending cuts will also be needed and some have already been proposed. How much did the GOP save with their big spending cut, eliminating funding for NPR????

    And you see no advantages to business in this proposal?
    Further, it isn't intended solely as a spending reduction measure. It's also intended to improve the functioning of government and make it more responsive, which should pay dividends.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    Can you cite where in the Constitution Congress has the authority ???
    You are the one that declared it unconstitutional in the absence of a ruling by the Supreme Court. The onus is on you to prove your case before the Supreme Court. Please do get back to us with the outcome.
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