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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So why does Barry need this new power again?


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    Again ... because Republicans try to block him from doing anything ... unless their attempts to block everything are made so transparent that they're shamed into doing something.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

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    Again ... because Republicans try to block him from doing anything ... unless their attempts to block everything are made so transparent that they're shamed into doing something.
    I see, so you think that rather than go through the process, you'd like Obama to be just granted more and more power? Make congress irrelevant?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    I see, so you think that rather than go through the process, you'd like Obama to be just granted more and more power? Make congress irrelevant?

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    If Congress agrees then that will be the process. And of course they still get an up or down vote (assuming they ever agree to take one).

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    If Congress agrees then that will be the process. And of course they still get an up or down vote (assuming they ever agree to take one).
    No. How about that. This is insane. Obama should not be allowed to dismantle our constitution just because repubs disagree with him.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Again ... because Republicans try to block him from doing anything ... unless their attempts to block everything are made so transparent that they're shamed into doing something.
    Perhaps you were told he was going to be elected emperor, which is not the case at all.

    In the American democracy the Senate and Congress also have input in the process and the President is often forced to work with these two. Perhaps we can expect a constitutional re-write some time soon but until that happens Congress also gets to represent the will of the people.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Again ... because Republicans try to block him from doing anything ... unless their attempts to block everything are made so transparent that they're shamed into doing something.
    What is becoming apparent to more and more people: The GOP are saying the same thing they said every election of the last 30 years - We demand the budget deficit be reduced.........but what they do in actuality is continue spending too much and continue cutting tax rates for the wealthy.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

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    What is becoming apparent to more and more people: The GOP are saying the same thing they said every election of the last 30 years - We demand the budget deficit be reduced.........but what they do in actuality is continue spending too much and continue cutting tax rates for the wealthy.
    So the Republicans of today are not conservative enough for you?

    Many Americans would agree, which is why the ended up giving George Bush such low ratings and whether Mitt Romney is also conservative enough. Perhaps you can get more information on public debt and what to do about it from your local Tea Party office.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Perhaps you were told he was going to be elected emperor, which is not the case at all.

    In the American democracy the Senate and Congress also have input in the process and the President is often forced to work with these two. Perhaps we can expect a constitutional re-write some time soon but until that happens Congress also gets to represent the will of the people.
    Please, don't be such a drama queen. He's asking Congress for this authority -- not staging a military coup.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    So the Republicans of today are not conservative enough for you?
    You missed the point, what they say and what they do are two different things as evidenced by every administration they have presided over for the last 30 years, all we get from them is ever greater spending, less taxes for the rich, and greater debt. The only departure from that track during the last 3 decades has been the Clinton Administration when both sides came together to both cut spending and increase taxes for the wealthy.

    When the GOP gets serious about cutting the deficit that is what we will have to do again.
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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

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    You missed the point, what they say and what they do are two different things as evidenced by every administration they have presided over for the last 30 years, all we get from them is ever greater spending, less taxes for the rich, and greater debt.
    Yes, you've made your point the first time. And most American people agree with you on spending cuts while many still want more social programs coupled with pork barrel spending. The easier way for any politician is to promise one and play the other.

    Less taxes from the rich ( or middle class) is irrelevant. If the government isn't bringing in income from any sources, and there many areas where they get their revenue, then they shouldn't be spending it. They should have a budget and follow it. When is the last time there was a budget? We all know that we should only spend what we have. Why should the government be any different?

    The only departure from that track during the last 3 decades has been the Clinton Administration when both sides came together to both cut spending and increase taxes for the wealthy.
    Yes, and that was with a Republican Congress that controlled the purse strings, which is similar to what we see now and why Republicans were elected to Congress during the last elections. People wanted a halt to crazed spending.

    When the GOP gets serious about cutting the deficit that is what we will have to do again.
    Exactly, and this is what the Tea Party is all about.

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