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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    i think the right word to use here is....centralize not consolidate.but that might raise some alarm bells.crafty sob's
    Listen to your conscience....and let it sink in.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    I raised this question in another thread, why isnt there a hiring freeze for the fed if all those baby boomers are retiring? If we really want to shring federal government shouldnt that be policy?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The cost savings are just incidental. It's making things more efficient for business that is the big win. For example, look at the list of some 10 agencies that deal with various business things that he wants to combine. That means a corporation only needs to have one contact instead of 10, maybe they only need to complete one review process or whatever instead of 10, it means having to deal with one set of requirements instead of 10, etc.
    Now that we know that the savings argument is bogus lets look at the regulations.

    Here are a few facts about alleged cost savings and fewer regulations.

    New report cites 'regulatory tsunami' under Obama | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

    This is Obama again pretending he is doing something when he's doing nothing, and many appear desperate to believe him rather than admit that the unifier they voted for is an incompetent. Luckily, you have a chance next year to correct your error and not make the same horrendous mistake again.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Now that we know that the savings argument is bogus lets look at the regulations.

    Here are a few facts about alleged cost savings and fewer regulations.

    New report cites 'regulatory tsunami' under Obama | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

    This is Obama again pretending he is doing something when he's doing nothing, and many appear desperate to believe him rather than admit that the unifier they voted for is an incompetent. Luckily, you have a chance next year to correct your error and not make the same horrendous mistake again.
    Instead of "Hope and Change", I think Obama could be more accurate this time around with "Smoke and Mirrors", or "That's the Ticket ... Yeah". He has so many water carriers as well.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Now that we know that the savings argument is bogus lets look at the regulations.

    Here are a few facts about alleged cost savings and fewer regulations.

    New report cites 'regulatory tsunami' under Obama | Campaign 2012 | Washington Examiner

    This is Obama again pretending he is doing something when he's doing nothing, and many appear desperate to believe him rather than admit that the unifier they voted for is an incompetent. Luckily, you have a chance next year to correct your error and not make the same horrendous mistake again.
    Um, that article is from 3 months before he even proposed this... It doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with this proposal...

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Um, that article is from 3 months before he even proposed this... It doesn't have anything whatsoever to do with this proposal...
    It has everything to do with it.

    You made the claim that "The cost savings are just incidental. It's making things more efficient for business that is the big win"", when we know his stated proposal is just words, not actions. I've given you his actions, not his words.

    Which speaks louder?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    It has everything to do with it.

    You made the claim that "The cost savings are just incidental. It's making things more efficient for business that is the big win"", when we know his stated proposal is just words, not actions. I've given you his actions, not his words.

    Which speaks louder?
    Not sure how you think that is relevant to the proposal. Do you have any criticism of the proposal? Or just criticisms of Obama?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Not sure how you think that is relevant to the proposal. Do you have any criticism of the proposal? Or just criticisms of Obama?
    There is nothing there. It is claimed to be a proposal but we all should know it is intended to make him look like he cares about streamlining government while government has actually grown by over 10% during his administration. It will go nowhere and was never intended to go anywhere.

    Bill Clinton used to have people take surveys in shopping malls about different topics to see what the public mood might be. If mothers felt school uniforms were a good idea he would muse publicly that school uniforms might be a good idea, despite the feds not having any jurisdiction over school uniforms. BHO is saying these things because he knows people would like to see government streamlined, but his actions betray every word he spoke.

    What is the problem with criticisms of Obama?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    There is nothing there.
    It would give the executive branch the power to merge departments, pending approval by Congress. He has listed off the departments he would like to merge personally, but the power would apply to future presidents too. Do you have any objection to that?

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    It would give the executive branch the power to merge departments, pending approval by Congress. He has listed off the departments he would like to merge personally, but the power would apply to future presidents too. Do you have any objection to that?
    .

    I repeat, there is nothing there. It is meaningless and a waste of time to discuss it.

    Go by actions not words.

    There are just too many Americans falling for this claptrap. It should stop.

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