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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    According to the article, Barrack Obama claims "the plan could save the government $3 billion over 10 years".

    Given that the US government spends 25% more than that in one day is there any clear reason why anyone should get excited or optimistic about this?

    The man is destroying the country while people talk peanuts, and many still buy into his crap. How did the American people allow this to happen?


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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Given that the US government spends 25% more than that in one day is there any clear reason why anyone should get excited or optimistic about this?
    The cost savings are just incidental. It's making things more efficient for business that is the big win. For example, look at the list of some 10 agencies that deal with various business things that he wants to combine. That means a corporation only needs to have one contact instead of 10, maybe they only need to complete one review process or whatever instead of 10, it means having to deal with one set of requirements instead of 10, etc.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The cost savings are just incidental. It's making things more efficient for business that is the big win. For example, look at the list of some 10 agencies that deal with various business things that he wants to combine. That means a corporation only needs to have one contact instead of 10, maybe they only need to complete one review process or whatever instead of 10, it means having to deal with one set of requirements instead of 10, etc.
    I don't know why there is even a thread on this.

    The possible savings could be $3 billion over ten years while the US government spends that much between 6am and midnight every day. They are over budget by almost $1.5 trillion per year. In ten years there will be no one to borrow money from because the country will be broke, busted, kaput. There is no ten years and to suggest there is is madness.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    I don't know why there is even a thread on this.

    The possible savings could be $3 billion over ten years while the US government spends that much between 6am and midnight every day. They are over budget by almost $1.5 trillion per year. In ten years there will be no one to borrow money from because the country will be broke, busted, kaput. There is no ten years and to suggest there is is madness.
    The cost savings are just incidental. It's making things more efficient for business that is the big win. For example, look at the list of some 10 agencies that deal with various business things that he wants to combine. That means a corporation only needs to have one contact instead of 10, maybe they only need to complete one review process or whatever instead of 10, it means having to deal with one set of requirements instead of 10, etc.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    The only thing Obama needs to be given is a one-way ticket back to Chicago. The car is going off a cliff, and he's wasting time with this crap.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Maybe this is where we disagree. I would definitely NOT agree with the idea that legislators have a duty to introduce legislation that their constituents want if they know it won't pass. I would say the opposite- that they have a duty to use the time that their constituents gave them in government as efficiently and effectively as possible to achieve actual results…
    This is a representative government (or is supposed to be). Those elected are chosen by the positions they take and the ‘promises (LOL!)’ they make. I believe they should do what they say and what the people want (the ‘actual results’ you state). If the BBA is what some of the electorate wants, write the bill, put it on the floor and vote on it. If it fails they have fulfilled their SPECIFIC obligation and must still attempt to accomplish what you assert, the more global goal. Further if its passage fails it would prove there is not sufficient popular support for it. This would in the least shut those who espouse ‘we just need to xxxx’. By not doing so only promotes the ‘political football’ whose only goal is perpetuating there office, as you state so eloquently.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    The only thing Obama needs to be given is a one-way ticket back to Chicago. The car is going off a cliff, and he's wasting time with this crap.
    What you are now calling "this crap"- streamlining government and simplifying regulatory compliance for businesses is the main thrust of your entire political party... All you guys care about anymore is partisan loyalty. There aren't any actual beliefs or values or issues that you stand for. When any of those come up against your partisan loyalty, your partisanship trumps.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Dickieboy View Post
    This is a representative government (or is supposed to be). Those elected are chosen by the positions they take and the ‘promises (LOL!)’ they make. I believe they should do what they say and what the people want (the ‘actual results’ you state). If the BBA is what some of the electorate wants, write the bill, put it on the floor and vote on it. If it fails they have fulfilled their SPECIFIC obligation and must still attempt to accomplish what you assert, the more global goal. Further if its passage fails it would prove there is not sufficient popular support for it. This would in the least shut those who espouse ‘we just need to xxxx’. By not doing so only promotes the ‘political football’ whose only goal is perpetuating there office, as you state so eloquently.
    I think what the public wants is for the government to actually change in one way or another, not just for politicians to talk about changing it.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    What you are now calling "this crap"- streamlining government and simplifying regulatory compliance for businesses is the main thrust of your entire political party... All you guys care about anymore is partisan loyalty. There aren't any actual beliefs or values or issues that you stand for. When any of those come up against your partisan loyalty, your partisanship trumps.
    Frankly, we do not know that such would be the result of any of this, or that there are not unintended consequences we yet have no clue about.

    What we do know is that it is as chump change. We do know that there is no basis yet to believe that it will matter a ****-hair for business. Because "Obama said so" doesn't count for fart gas. All I see is an election year red herring from the inept jerk-n-chief.

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    Re: Obama seeks 'consolidation authority' to merge agencies

    Quote Originally Posted by Eighty Deuce View Post
    Frankly, we do not know that such would be the result of any of this, or that there are not unintended consequences we yet have no clue about.

    What we do know is that it is as chump change. We do know that there is no basis yet to believe that it will matter a ****-hair for business. Because "Obama said so" doesn't count for fart gas. All I see is an election year red herring from the inept jerk-n-chief.
    So you're just saying "it's too complicated to think about actual policies, so I'll just go with blind partisanship". Right?

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