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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by EagleAye View Post
    And what if the power plants were nuclear, wind, solar, hydro, and geo-thermal? Then you wouldn't be giving your money to Saudi Arabia, who fund terrorism and support militant Imams who are advocate that you (and every other American) be exterminated. And you'd be living in a cleaner environment in a country that owes nothing to any foreign government. I really dislike the idea of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan carrying American balls around in their purse, don't you?
    Then you should talk to your liberal buddies in the far left environmental groups. THEY are the ones not only preventing the construction of coal plants, but also nuclear, solar, and wind. You can forget hydro. I'm sure they can find a convenient snail darter or some other inconsequential creature to stop construction of any new major dams.

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Then you should talk to your liberal buddies in the far left environmental groups. THEY are the ones not only preventing the construction of coal plants, but also nuclear, solar, and wind. You can forget hydro. I'm sure they can find a convenient snail darter or some other inconsequential creature to stop construction of any new major dams.
    Cost is by far the main reason that nuclear isn't more prevalent in this country -- not far left groups. In fact, if you really want more nuke plants the best way to go about it would be to implement a carbon tax or cap and trade plan that would make nuclear more competitive. In that sense it is the far right that is road block.

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Cost is by far the main reason that nuclear isn't more prevalent in this country -- not far left groups. In fact, if you really want more nuke plants the best way to go about it would be to implement a carbon tax or cap and trade plan that would make nuclear more competitive. In that sense it is the far right that is road block.
    Not true, and I'm surprised you would debate this obvious point. There are dozens of nuclear projects, as well as hydro, solar, and wind, throughout the country that have been cancelled or held up due to prolonged lawsuits and other legal obstructionism.

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Not true, and I'm surprised you would debate this obvious point. There are dozens of nuclear projects, as well as hydro, solar, and wind, throughout the country that have been cancelled or held up due to prolonged lawsuits and other legal obstructionism.
    I didn't say that safety and environmental concerns aren't A factor, but they aren't close to the most important factor. The most important factor is that nuclear has huge start up costs and is generally more expensive than coal.

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    I didn't say that safety and environmental concerns aren't A factor, but they aren't close to the most important factor. The most important factor is that nuclear has huge start up costs and is generally more expensive than coal.

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    Then why did you reply to my post, which was about the obstruction by liberal groups that are preventing the construction of ALL types of power plants, including their darlings, solar and wind.

    Of course nuclear is expensive, primarily due to safety concerns and redundancies required. That has nothing to do with the point I was making.

    All power plant projects are expensive.

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Then you should talk to your liberal buddies in the far left environmental groups.

    Why is science now associated with the far-left?

    Why is consumer protection and public safety now only associated with the Dems?

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Why is science now associated with the far-left?

    Why is consumer protection and public safety now only associated with the Dems?
    Science, consumer protection, and public safety is not the topic. Obstructionism at all cost to prevent any projects from going forward is.

    Here in Louisville, they've been trying to build a new bridge over the Ohio River for over 20 years. Environmental groups have held it up.

    Environmental groups will do anything to stop power projects and have stopped many, including your favored wind and solar. Do you deny that 99% of activist environmental groups are comprised of liberals ??

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Science, consumer protection, and public safety is not the topic. Obstructionism at all cost to prevent any projects from going forward is.
    Spin... Now you're trying to make polluters sound 'progressive'.... as if they want to move forward. Forward like a train powered by coal. That would be their wet dream, if transport still relied on coal...

    Here in Louisville, they've been trying to build a new bridge over the Ohio River for over 20 years. Environmental groups have held it up.
    Links, proof...???

    Environmental groups will do anything to stop power projects and have stopped many, including your favored wind and solar.
    Links, proof...???

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by hazlnut View Post
    Spin... Now you're trying to make polluters sound 'progressive'.... as if they want to move forward. Forward like a train powered by coal. That would be their wet dream, if transport still relied on coal...
    Talking about spin........where did I even mention coal ????

    Links, proof...???
    Move here and try crossing the bridge into Louisville any afternoon. jeez....... What a moronic response.

    Links, proof...???
    How many you want ??

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    Re: EPA: Power plants main global warming culprits

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Then why did you reply to my post, which was about the obstruction by liberal groups that are preventing the construction of ALL types of power plants, including their darlings, solar and wind.
    I replied because your premise is wrong. Environmentalists aren't the main reason that nuclear isn't more prevalent.

    For example, the area in which I live is serviced by a nuclear power plant. The plant submitted plans to add two additional reactors in 2002. In 2009 they temporarily halted their expansion plans, not because of protests, but because state officials would not allow them to raise rates as much as they wanted to raise them in order to finance the project. The plan is back on now and slated to begin construction this year. There have been protests -- both from people with safety concerns and from business groups who oppose the new power lines that will be required. Those protests have had no effect on the expansion plans, but the cost issue temporarily stopped the project in its tracks.

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