Face it...he shows the flaws in liberal programs and it makes you lose your mind. Instead of having a little integrity and saying..."huh...thats probably a part of the program that should be changed to preserve the integrity of the program" morons rush to defend the programs at all cost. One would think if people are really able to request ballots for dead people, everyone would identify that as a problem. Not going to happen when that knee is so quick at jerking up and hitting you in your nose.
That pimp costume it looks like he was wearing in the interview, he just filmed himself walking along the street in it somewhere else on a different day and then edited it in. The bits where it sounds like he is pretending to be a pimp are all either just voice over or taking things out of context. He was actually telling them that he was a local politician trying to help a young girl out of a life of prostitution. He said that the first thing she needed was a place to live away from her abusive pimp, but she was afraid to report her earnings as an underage prostitute because she didn't want to be arrested, and they helped her out. The responses of the workers were cut I think they figured out 43 times to make it sound like they were saying what they were.
The did is an animal. He's just going around flagrantly fabricating evidence to try to tear down anybody that tries to do good. He's one evil mofo that's for sure. Luckily, very few people still pay any attention to his antics after all the times he got busted faking videos... Were you even aware that he spent time in jail after being caught faking one of them? Does that sort of information just not filter in to the fox universe at all?
Now in the New Hampshire case, it certainly seems clear that the poll workers were going to give out ballots of dead people. However, what does this prove? Does it prove that dead people have voted in NH in the past?
If the argument then is, "well, they could have", then that's pretty lame, don't you think?
If that is the argument, since O'Keefe seemed to focus on people who had been dead less than 30 days, and who were already registered to vote, just how many people would that be? 10? 30? More? If you want to play the 'what if' game, if all the dead people who were still on the registration rolls voted, would that be enough votes to change the election?
Would those be Democratic votes or Republican votes?
Admittedly, NH should tighten up a bit on canvassing those death notices, but is there really a looming problem here? One requiring state-issued photo ID?
Last edited by Karl; 01-13-12 at 10:49 PM.
[QUOTE=muciti;1060103593]People should have to show ID to vote. Its not that difficult. Probably won't stop voter fraud however.[/QUOTE
Worrying about wholesale voter fraud is the adult version of worrying about the boogeyman....
If there is a potential for fraud it should be eliminated. I dont care if it is republican OR democrat. I dont vote for either party and I HIGHLY doubt 3rd party voters are going to be rising from the grave to sway the election. However we have seen (and Ive posted links in the past-I can find them and post them again) where dead people voted in the last election...in Texas, New Mexico, Illinois, and others. We have far too many instance of vote fraud indicators...be it the bags of alleged ballots found floating in ditches and lakes or the bags of ballots accidentally found weeks later in someones closet or trunk. Dead people shouldnt be able to vote. Poll workers shouldnt be able to cast peoples ballots for people. Election purity and intent (for whatever that is worth consider the amount of crap in the adds and airwaves) ought to be maintained wherever possible. If people can request ballots on behalf of dead people that practice SHOULD be identified and stopped. That people immediately shreik and cry about the exposure (and cling to their Fox News boogy man) is a pretty good indicator of their character.
One of you will end up here next!
How is an ID going to prevent someone who is determined to commit voter fraud (however miniscule that may be)?
Let's take this statement by John Fund, a Wall Street Journal columnist and author of Stealing Elections: How Voter Fraud Threatens Our Democracy.
"Let's say somebody is registered who doesn't exist. How would you know that that was an improper vote?" Fund said. "All you have is an address. The person shows up at the polls, signs a signature, can vote. How would you know an improper vote has been cast? You wouldn't."
Now let's alter that statement slightly, with the bolded.
"Let's say somebody is registered who doesn't exist. How would you know that that was an improper vote? All you have is an address. The person shows up at the polls, shows a fake ID, can vote. How would you know an improper vote has been cast? You wouldn't."
If you're going to risk violating a federal election law a fake ID damn sure isn't going to deter you.
An ID isn't going to stop voter fraud, all it's doing is putting another unneccessary obstacle in the way of others.
Couple the ID laws with other assaults on limiting voting like:
uneccessary retrictions on groups like the League of Women Voters to register new voters
eliminating same day voter registration
cutting short early voting periods
Florida and Iowa barred all ex-felons from the polls, disenfranchising thousands of previously eligible voters
It's an uneccessary attempt at limiting the voting process.
Voting should be made easier.
“I’m worried that I will be the last Republican president.” - George W. Bush
It is, very easy, however to discourage the vote. Tactics that were pulled off in Ohio several years ago included having more than enough election machines for the suburbs and not nearly enough for the inner city, making it very convenient for one group to vote and very, very inconvenient (waits reported as 3-4 hours) for another. It is estimated that 3% of the voting populace in Ohio were discouraged from voting. That may have swung the 2004 presidential election.
2004 United States election voting controversies - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Again, this idea that illegal voters are voting in sufficient mass (and all voting one particular way) to sway an election defies reason. Its an adult boogeyman; no more real than the one in your closet.