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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The people pushing voter ID laws know that (even if misled masses do not). It would also be just as effective, if ID was desired, to have people bring a recent utility bill, checking account statement, or even their voter registration card -- anything 'official' with the name and address of the registered voter on it.

    However, that would not be as effective in disenfranchising legal voters as a state issued photo ID, which some may not have (don't drive), or some may not want to visit a state office to get (minor problems with the law, child support, simply a pain in the ass, whatever). And of course we all know for whom those at the bottom rungs of the socio-economic ladder -- those who may not have official photo-ID's but may still be legal voters -- are likely to vote for: Democrats.

    Given that, I'm really at a loss as to why the Republicans are so hot on this non-issue....
    Oh, the race card... do you really think minorities are that incapable that a simple photo ID is a barrier to voting? How insulting and condescending your position is.
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
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    Remember folks, no need for something has racist, hateful and evil asking people to show ID before they vote... fraud rarely if ever happens!



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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    The people pushing voter ID laws know that (even if misled masses do not). It would also be just as effective, if ID was desired, to have people bring a recent utility bill, checking account statement, or even their voter registration card -- anything 'official' with the name and address of the registered voter on it.

    However, that would not be as effective in disenfranchising legal voters as a state issued photo ID, which some may not have (don't drive), or some may not want to visit a state office to get (minor problems with the law, child support, simply a pain in the ass, whatever). And of course we all know for whom those at the bottom rungs of the socio-economic ladder -- those who may not have official photo-ID's but may still be legal voters -- are likely to vote for: Democrats.

    Given that, I'm really at a loss as to why the Republicans are so hot on this non-issue....
    Oh, the race card... do you really think minorities are that incapable that a simple photo ID is a barrier to voting? How insulting and condescending your position is.
    Where is race mentioned in my post?

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Where is race mentioned in my post?
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted | wltx.com

    Remember folks, no need for something has racist, hateful and evil asking people to show ID before they vote... fraud rarely if ever happens!



    I can't even begin to express my disgust at how this was posted.

    1) OK, a legitimate argument from a mainstream source, where a REPUBLICAN state official claims to have evidence of voter fraud, but has not actually produced it. This comes right on the heels of the Justice Department order to suspend the new voter law, because of claims that it would disenfranchise thousands of voters. But, still, it's a mainstream source.

    2) The article by the daily caller and the video footage purporting to show voter fraud is where you fail. First, let's check out how O'Keefe obtained his footage..... By committing voter fraud himself. There is a grand jury in New Hampshire looking into the same prank O'Keefe pulled up there before it's primary. He committed voter fraud there 12 times, and is probably going to be spending jail time for it.

    From this article.

    Also, what O'Keefe did not show in his video was the dishonest way he went about it:

    And, of course, O'Keefe and company never back with their ID to compete the process, but shows the video, making people think he did. O'Keefe is the very same person who has caused controversy in the past by editing video footage to make it appear that people said something different from what they actually said. This is known as yellow journalism, and O'Keefe is one of it's main practitioners.

    The way this is posted is nothing but spin..... So far. What I need to see is the actual proof from the head of South Carolina's DMV, which he has not produced yet. But even should he produce those 900 names he claims to have, it is nothing, compared to the thousands of elderly and poor, who would not be allowed to vote as a result of South Carolina's law. The Justice Department is correct in reviewing the law, to make sure that Jim Crow keeps his nasty nose out of elections in South Carolina.

    As for O'Keefe, he DID break the law in New Hampshire, and now in South Carolina. Let him rot in a jail cell, where he belongs.
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    I suggest you watch the video -- it was O'Keefe and his assistants that were "cheating and perpetrating voter fraud".
    No they weren't. They didn't accept any of the ballots and were performing a service by showing the holes in the system... Isn't that part of investigative journalism? Oh... only if you are a mainstream liberal news source... right?
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Democrats cheating and perpetrating voter fraud? No, say it isn't so. ROFLMAO!
    I suggest you watch the video -- it was O'Keefe and his assistants that were "cheating and perpetrating voter fraud".
    No they weren't. They didn't accept any of the ballots and were performing a service by showing the holes in the system... Isn't that part of investigative journalism? Oh... only if you are a mainstream liberal news source... right?
    The "Democrats" in the original poster's statement do not exist -- he was perpetrating propaganda.

    My post was an attempt to correct the record.

    I'll leave it to the Grand Jury to determine the legality of O'Keefe's actions. But offhand, O'Keefe's usual tactics -- perpetrating a fraud -- doesn't really ring my investigative journalism bell.

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I can't even begin to express my disgust at how this was posted.

    1) OK, a legitimate argument from a mainstream source, where a REPUBLICAN state official claims to have evidence of voter fraud, but has not actually produced it. This comes right on the heels of the Justice Department order to suspend the new voter law, because of claims that it would disenfranchise thousands of voters. But, still, it's a mainstream source.

    2) The article by the daily caller and the video footage purporting to show voter fraud is where you fail. First, let's check out how O'Keefe obtained his footage..... By committing voter fraud himself. There is a grand jury in New Hampshire looking into the same prank O'Keefe pulled up there before it's primary. He committed voter fraud there 12 times, and is probably going to be spending jail time for it.

    From this article.

    Also, what O'Keefe did not show in his video was the dishonest way he went about it:



    And, of course, O'Keefe and company never back with their ID to compete the process, but shows the video, making people think he did. O'Keefe is the very same person who has caused controversy in the past by editing video footage to make it appear that people said something different from what they actually said. This is known as yellow journalism, and O'Keefe is one of it's main practitioners.

    The way this is posted is nothing but spin..... So far. What I need to see is the actual proof from the head of South Carolina's DMV, which he has not produced yet. But even should he produce those 900 names he claims to have, it is nothing, compared to the thousands of elderly and poor, who would not be allowed to vote as a result of South Carolina's law. The Justice Department is correct in reviewing the law, to make sure that Jim Crow keeps his nasty nose out of elections in South Carolina.

    As for O'Keefe, he DID break the law in New Hampshire, and now in South Carolina. Let him rot in a jail cell, where he belongs.
    The first story was out there, and the second was linked as "more like this story" so I thought it would add color to the issue. Obviously I forgot that O'Keefe is radioactive among liberals and started a stirr.
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    No they weren't. They didn't accept any of the ballots and were performing a service by showing the holes in the system... Isn't that part of investigative journalism? Oh... only if you are a mainstream liberal news source... right?
    Investigative journalism? The previous videos turned out to be fake. As has already been shown by many in this thread, this one is, at the least, a total distortion... That isn't "investigative journalism", it's attempting to manipulate public opinion with outright dishonesty.

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Its funny how when major networks run exposes its journalism but when a guy does it and it exposes practices liberals defend, retards trip over themselves to decry the practice.

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