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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT
    How hard to you folks think it is to obtain fake IDs? Is it so hard that half the high school and college students in the country can't get them?
    That's what's so funny to me.

    IF someone is determined to vote illegally, an ID will be the last thing to stop them.

    Is running all around town with fake voter certificates and matching fake IDs in significant numbers really be worth the huge logistic effort it would take to influence an election?


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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Voter fraud does occur, no doubt about that, but every study on it I've ever seen concluded that 99.9% of it occurs with absentee ballots, computer hacking or election workers stuffing ballots. People actually going into a polling place and voting as somebody else or whatever, while possible, doesn't appear to actually happen hardly at all. Just think about it. One vote is basically meaningless in the big picture. It's hard enough to get people to vote once, let alone multiple times when they could potentially go to prison for it. It would be a wildly inefficient and risky way to defraud an election.

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    Voter fraud does occur, no doubt about that, but every study on it I've ever seen concluded that 99.9% of it occurs with absentee ballots, computer hacking or election workers stuffing ballots. People actually going into a polling place and voting as somebody else or whatever, while possible, doesn't appear to actually happen hardly at all. Just think about it. One vote is basically meaningless in the big picture. It's hard enough to get people to vote once, let alone multiple times when they could potentially go to prison for it. It would be a wildly inefficient and risky way to defraud an election.
    People actually going into a polling place and voting as somebody else or whatever, while possible, doesn't appear to actually happen hardly at all.
    I disagree. There are hundreds of thousands that are signed up/registered to vote that are not eligible to vote. From the dead to the many mexican citizens that vote here in this country.
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    I disagree. There are hundreds of thousands that are signed up/registered to vote that are not eligible to vote. From the dead to the many mexican citizens that vote here in this country.
    The number of cases actually brought for voter fraud is miniscule, despite the fact that there are dozens of highly contested elections every cycle.

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    The number of cases actually brought for voter fraud is miniscule, despite the fact that there are dozens of highly contested elections every cycle.
    Florida, Missouri, Minnesota, Illinois, Louisiana, South Dakota, Nevada, Oregon, Washing, Indiana.....there are more.

    All Democrat cheating I might add.
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Florida, Missouri, Minnesota, Illinois, Louisiana, South Dakota, Nevada, Oregon, Washing, Indiana.....there are more.

    All Democrat cheating I might add.
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    How hard to you folks think it is to obtain fake IDs? Is it so hard that half the high school and college students in the country can't get them? You think that O'Keefe couldn't have made up a couple dozen fake IDs with a laser printer and laminating machine and achieved the same result? [...]
    The people pushing voter ID laws know that (even if misled masses do not). It would also be just as effective, if ID was desired, to have people bring a recent utility bill, checking account statement, or even their voter registration card -- anything 'official' with the name and address of the registered voter on it.

    However, that would not be as effective in disenfranchising legal voters as a state issued photo ID, which some may not have (don't drive), or some may not want to visit a state office to get (minor problems with the law, child support, simply a pain in the ass, whatever). And of course we all know for whom those at the bottom rungs of the socio-economic ladder -- those who may not have official photo-ID's but may still be legal voters -- are likely to vote for: Democrats.

    Given that, I'm really at a loss as to why the Republicans are so hot on this non-issue....
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    From that link:

    Project Veritas asked the New Hampshire Union Leader to email questions about the video, but did not respond.
    Imagine that

    Who wants to bet that O'Keefe shows up on Fox News within the next couple days, touting voter fraud in NH (which clearly did not happen), while all the Fox talking heads cluck their tongues and nod approvingly... while still refusing to address any question by the 'mainstream' media (like the New Hampshire Union Leader newspaper above)?

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by a777pilot View Post
    Florida, Missouri, Minnesota, Illinois, Louisiana, South Dakota, Nevada, Oregon, Washing, Indiana.....there are more.

    All Democrat cheating I might add.
    HAHAHA! I'm from Minnesota, and let me guess, you're going to claim that Al Franken won because of voter fraud? Because that's the provably false claim that people have been making for years despite the fact that every ballot was checked out by a bi-partisan committee and everybody concluded that the final count was the most accurate final count.

    Oh well, the truth has never stopped people like you before from lying, so I don't see why me pointing out that you're factually wrong will phase you the least bit.
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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    So, how many dead people actually showed up and cast votes? Can someone tell me that?
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