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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Here is the Secretary of States pronouncement regarding Michigan voters without a photo ID.

    So Michigan voters will continue to vote without photo ID.

    As I have said, I have been voting for forty years and have never been asked for any ID of any kind - photo or otherwise. A simple signature and that is it. I voted a recently as 2011. I will attempt to find out about this recent Michigan court case which caused the Secretary of State to issue these guidelines.
    Yes, I saw that quote previously which is why I alerted you to the new law (admittedly snarky). I didn't want you to get riled up at the poll my friend. I caught this while researching the various state statuses and sitting legislature/governor party affiliation. I predict that unless repealed the 'not required' proviso will stand for a short time. Ultimately government typically allows some 'transition' period before imposing strictly. IMHO.

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And unfortunately, requiring ID doesn't solve these problems. What it does is it means that voter fraud would then require a large group of people who have a vested interest in the outcome of the election. Like maybe the Republican and Democratic parties? How likely do you think that either of them is likely to investigate after they successfully fixed the election?
    One step at a time. When you have agencies committing fraudulent voter registration, you can only blame those agencies and those who support them for creating the mess. Voter ID will do one thing...make sure the person casting the ballot is who they say they are. If I had my way ANYONE found guilty of vote fraud, buying votes and illegally denying citizens their vote would face big boy prison. Im tired of the week long counts, recounts, oops, found a new mystery bag of votes, denial of military voters, etc etc etc. Everyone else should be the same.

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    One step at a time. When you have agencies committing fraudulent voter registration, you can only blame those agencies and those who support them for creating the mess. [...]
    Who are these mysterious agencies that are wrecking our elections? Can you tune us in to that tin foil hat channel?

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    Who are these mysterious agencies that are wrecking our elections? Can you tune us in to that tin foil hat channel?
    You cant be serious. You really dont know how many incidents of fraudulent voter registration have been documented by ACORN and their ilk? Seriously?

    Just for fun you might want to google the election fraud in East St Louis, Kentucky, and others. Both major parties have people guilty of it. In Florida recently damn near a whole precint worth of poll workers were arrested for vote fraud for filing ballots for other people.

    The reality is we dont know HOW many votes have been fraudulently cast...primarily because in most places people just sign and vote. We dont investigate every vote and voter. Maybe we should. The process is too important.

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You cant be serious. You really dont know how many incidents of fraudulent voter registration have been documented by ACORN and their ilk? Seriously?

    Just for fun you might want to google the election fraud in East St Louis, Kentucky, and others. Both major parties have people guilty of it. In Florida recently damn near a whole precint worth of poll workers were arrested for vote fraud for filing ballots for other people.

    The reality is we dont know HOW many votes have been fraudulently cast...primarily because in most places people just sign and vote. We dont investigate every vote and voter. Maybe we should. The process is too important.
    You have some links?

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    You cant be serious. You really dont know how many incidents of fraudulent voter registration have been documented by ACORN and their ilk? Seriously?
    The ACORN voter registration stuff didn't have anything to do with elections. ACORN paid people per registration form they collected. Some of the folks doing that for them figured "hey, why don't I just put made up names on these forms to bilk some extra money out of ACORN" so they wrote down made up names. That doesn't have anything to do with changing the result of any election or anything. They just got bounced by the board of elections since they were bogus names. It happened enough in a few places that the boards of elections got (rightly) sick of having their time wasted, so they sued.

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im tired of the week long counts, recounts, oops, found a new mystery bag of votes, denial of military voters, etc etc etc. Everyone else should be the same.
    I am too, but I'd like to see measures taken that fix those problems. Instead we'll get photo ID and a bunch of Republican politicians crowing about how they "stopped voter fraud."


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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by teamosil View Post
    The ACORN voter registration stuff didn't have anything to do with elections. ACORN paid people per registration form they collected. Some of the folks doing that for them figured "hey, why don't I just put made up names on these forms to bilk some extra money out of ACORN" so they wrote down made up names. That doesn't have anything to do with changing the result of any election or anything. They just got bounced by the board of elections since they were bogus names. It happened enough in a few places that the boards of elections got (rightly) sick of having their time wasted, so they sued.
    The right knows that. They still think they have a valid argument, however. They think that they can really claim that since someone wrote Mickey Mouse down on a voter registration form, that means that Mickey Mouse voted, and that people will believe that. Go figure <shrug>

    They also think that James O'Keefe really did wear that pimp outfit in the ACORN videos. The right is a real hoot

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    [...] The reality is we dont know HOW many votes have been fraudulently cast... [...]
    I do. Carl Sagan told me. Billions and billions....

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    Re: DMV: 900 Dead People May Have Voted

    The wonderful Florida GOP is also trying to push through one of these disenfranchise the voter bills. Voter fraud is a real serious problem. I mean, in the last three years alone there have been ... two [2] ... arrests connected to voter fraud.

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