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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    No. I consider this whole situation a failure of leadership of the United States and any western power endorsing these sanctions -- their inability to find a diplomatic solution to this problem. We've put financial sanctions in place. Exactly what does Iran have to do to get these sanctions lifted? We're going down the exact same road we went down with Iraq. "They have WMD's!! They have WMD's!!" Oops, they didn't. "They're going to make WMD's!! They're going to make WMD's!!" Wake up, folks.

    There is a diplomatic solution here. Why are we not finding one? Iran signed the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty. They haven't withdrawn as North Korea has. Why are we not making a better case?

    What do they have to do to lift the sanctions? "Don't do that anymore," whatever that is, is hardly a realistic policy.



    Prove it, Leon. Prove they are laying the groundwork for making nuclear weapons someday. Where's the beef?
    Since they signed the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty, they should abide by its rules. They are not. They have been found in non compliance numerous times and refuse to cooperate with the IAEA.

    Here's a list of IAEA findings on Iran just in the past year:

    In February 2010, the IAEA issued a report scolding Iran for failing to explain purchases of sensitive technology as well as secret tests of high-precision detonators and modified designs of missile cones to accommodate larger payloads. Such experiments are closely associated with atomic warheads.

    In May 2010, the IAEA issued a report that Iran had declared production of over 2.5 metric tons of low-enriched uranium, which would be enough if further enriched to make two nuclear weapons, and that Iran has refused to answer inspectors’ questions on a variety of activities, including what the agency called the “possible military dimensions” of Iran's nuclear program.

    In July 2010, Iran barred two IAEA inspectors from entering the country. The IAEA rejected Iran's reasons for the ban and said it fully supported the inspectors, which Tehran has accused of reporting wrongly that some nuclear equipment was missing.

    In August 2010, the IAEA said Iran has started using a second set of 164 centrifuges linked in a cascade, or string of machines, to enrich uranium to up to 20% at its Natanz pilot fuel enrichment plan.

    In November of 2011, IAEA officials identified a "large explosive containment vessel" inside Parchin. The IAEA later assessed that Iran has been conducting experiments to develop nuclear weapons capability.
    Nuclear program of Iran - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Iran has no reason to continue its games of obfuscation unless it is actively pursuing a nuclear weapon.

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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nuclear experts must come a dime a dozen in your neck of the woods.
    Illinois has a couple nuclear power plants.
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

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    How do you know that ??
    Because Oppenheimer didn't work for all the other nuclear powers.
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Illinois has a couple nuclear power plants.
    Nuclear power plants and nuclear experts are not synonymous. Quite a difference between weaponizing plutonium and running a power plant.
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Whomever the person(s) were that did the assasination should be tried and shot at the very least.

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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Because Oppenheimer didn't work for all the other nuclear powers.
    I suggest you read the post I was quoting and try again. This response has nothing to do with either.

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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Whomever the person(s) were that did the assasination should be tried and shot at the very least.
    Shot ?? Maybe we should just stone him like the barbarians in Iran do.

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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Whomever the person(s) were that did the assasination should be tried and shot at the very least.
    So one murder is ok by you but the other is not?

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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Gill View Post
    Shot ?? Maybe we should just stone him like the barbarians in Iran do.
    No different than what the cowardly barbarians did when they killed a civilian scientist.

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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    I should have said "nuclear scientists".

    That doesn't mean that all Iranians should be afraid as your post implied.
    If someone is murdered in a certain area it does create a fear for those people in that area that one of them could be the next victim.It does not make the murderer a terrorist. Much the same way when one nuclear scientist is assassinated it might create a fear among the other Iranian nuclear scientists that one of them might be the next victim, it does not any shape or form make this act of assassination an act of terrorism.
    "A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murder is less to fear"

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