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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    I don't consider this a terrorist attack. First, I question whether the guy qualifies as a civilian. Regardless, the purpose was not to terrorize the country and thereby cause unrest and political pressure within the community. Terrorizing the other nuclear scientists/workers may be an incidental effect, but the goal was simply to take out the brains of the nuclear operation. It was a political assassination.

    That said, to be consistent, people in this thread should probably have the same opinion of this as they did the US taking out Obama or that American terrorist last year.
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Would you prefer that the US/Israel/anyone else go to war with Iran to stop them from developing nuclear weapons? If memory serves me correctly there were a ton of people upset with recent wars.

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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Would you prefer that the US/Israel/anyone else go to war with Iran to stop them from developing nuclear weapons? If memory serves me correctly there were a ton of people upset with recent wars.
    lol. If agents keep using terrorism on Iran then how do you expect them NOT to go to war to defend themselves? People used terrorism on the US and the US went to war at the drop of a hat. (welll... technically US didnt actually declare war)
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Would you prefer that the US/Israel/anyone else go to war with Iran to stop them from developing nuclear weapons? If memory serves me correctly there were a ton of people upset with recent wars.
    There are more than just two choices. You offer only war or assasination. Those are not the only options.

    Not only that is this assasination is only going to fuel the want for Iran to go to war. Is that what YOU want?
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    Would you prefer that the US/Israel/anyone else go to war with Iran to stop them from developing nuclear weapons? If memory serves me correctly there were a ton of people upset with recent wars.
    No. I consider this whole situation a failure of leadership of the United States and any western power endorsing these sanctions -- their inability to find a diplomatic solution to this problem. We've put financial sanctions in place. Exactly what does Iran have to do to get these sanctions lifted? We're going down the exact same road we went down with Iraq. "They have WMD's!! They have WMD's!!" Oops, they didn't. "They're going to make WMD's!! They're going to make WMD's!!" Wake up, folks.

    There is a diplomatic solution here. Why are we not finding one? Iran signed the Non-Nuclear Proliferation Treaty. They haven't withdrawn as North Korea has. Why are we not making a better case?

    What do they have to do to lift the sanctions? "Don't do that anymore," whatever that is, is hardly a realistic policy.

    Defense Secretary Leon Panetta says Iran is laying the groundwork for making nuclear weapons someday, but is not yet building a bomb
    Prove it, Leon. Prove they are laying the groundwork for making nuclear weapons someday. Where's the beef?
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by iliveonramen View Post
    I disagree that it is to create a state of fear or coerce. The purpose was to hamstring their nuclear project by taking out a key memeber of the project.

    In order for it to be terrorism the goal is fear and the ultimate goal is to use that fear for political purposes.

    This was to take out someone that is a key person in a project, not to create fear in iran in order to stop them working on their nuclear project.
    Don't you think this creates fear for any scientists who work for the Iranian government?
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorgasm View Post
    Don't you think this creates fear for any scientists who work for the Iranian government?
    So everyone who has ever murdered or killed someone is a terrorist?
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    There are more than just two choices. You offer only war or assasination. Those are not the only options.

    Not only that is this assasination is only going to fuel the want for Iran to go to war. Is that what YOU want?
    What other option is there? They are progressing forward with their nuclear program despite negotiations, treaties, and sanctions. They are not responsive. Something has to be done. Iran cannot be allowed to develop nuclear weapons.

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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So everyone who has ever murdered or killed someone is a terrorist?
    Does your pogo stick have a nitrous bottle attached to it? That's quite a leap you made.

    A foreign government attacking civilians on sovereign soil is not "everyone who has ever murdered or killed someone".
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    Re: Car bombs kill Iranian nuclear expert

    Don't you think this creates fear for any scientists who work for the Iranian government?
    Of course it does, that's a natural extension of any assasination. Killing Kennedy created fear, the shooting of Reagan created fear. Those were assasinations (or attempted assasinations) though not acts of terrorism.

    Do you think creating fear was the reason we killed the scientists or were we removing a scientists that was important to their nuclear program? That's what distinguishes terrorism from assasination. If we were conducting a campaign of terrorism to stop their nuclear program we would go for targets that maximize the amount of fear created. Not one target.
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