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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The title just says that the Pope thinks SSM is a threat to humanity's future. It says nothing about SSM ending humanity on its own.
    It implies it is a grave threat though. The ending humanity was just my slightly colourful way of phrasing that. It certainly doesn't imply that gay marriage is just one more nail in the coffin or anything like that.
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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    If this is the Church's plan to keep religion relevant in the West, they couldn't have picked a worse strategy. Seriously, Jon Huntsman could run a more successful campaign.
    I heard somewhere that it is the more traditional parishes of the Roman Catholic Church which are the more popular in the West.

    It is not the Church's responsibility to be relevant to sin and foolishness.
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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    I heard somewhere that it is the more traditional parishes of the Roman Catholic Church which are the more popular in the West.

    It is not the Church's responsibility to be relevant to sin and foolishness.
    It is my understanding that the Church is worried about its floundering numbers in the West. Yet their response seems to be to highlight the very reasons their numbers here are dwindling.
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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    It is my understanding that the Church is worried about its floundering numbers in the West. Yet their response seems to be to highlight the very reasons their numbers here are dwindling.
    You only have to look at the liberal Protestant Churches to see that overly bowing to modern sensibilities doesn't help you keep your numbers up. Indeed they seem to be some of the most dwindling denominations.

    Trying to be relevant to modernism is ultimately self-defeating because modernist attitudes are ultimately enemies to organised religion. So not only do you betray basic aspects of the faith, but you don't win many converts because of this anyway.
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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Krhazy View Post
    It is my understanding that the Church is worried about its floundering numbers in the West. Yet their response seems to be to highlight the very reasons their numbers here are dwindling.
    Maybe they're banking on the developing nations to fill the collection plates in the coming century?

    I'm not religious, but I find it wholly ridiculous that an organisation claiming to be a moral authority should bow down to popular morality of the day to stay popular. That's just as embarassing as a fading celebrity trying to stay relevant with media hyped shock tactics.

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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    The Church is worried that Westerners are turning away from God, yes. The way to respond to that is not to say "it's OK to turn away from God". Merely maintaining membership numbers is of no concern to the Church. It is to maintain the awareness in its adherents of what God commands.
    The morality of abortion is not a religious belief, any more than the morality of slavery, apartheid, rape, larceny, murder or arson is a religious belief. These are norms of the natural law of mankind and can be legislated even in a completely religionless society.

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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    It implies it is a grave threat though. The ending humanity was just my slightly colourful way of phrasing that. It certainly doesn't imply that gay marriage is just one more nail in the coffin or anything like that.
    The title says, "gay marriage a threat to humanity's future". You added the "grave", you added the "ending humanity". If you have a problem with the phrasing, take it up with the Pope.

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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    You only have to look at the liberal Protestant Churches to see that overly bowing to modern sensibilities doesn't help you keep your numbers up. Indeed they seem to be some of the most dwindling denominations.
    Your point is completely inaccurate. Church attendance is in decline right across western Europe and falling fast in Catholic countries such as Belgium, Ireland and Spain.

    DECLINE BY COUNTRY
    A 2000 study by the Swedish-based World Values Survey shows nearly half — or more — don't regularly attend church in several Western European countries. percentage of people who "never" or "practically never" attend church in 14 democracies:
    Country 1981 2000
    France 59% 60%
    Britain 48% 55%
    NL 41% 48%
    Belgium 35% 46%
    Sweden 38% 46%
    Denmark 45% 43%
    Norway 38% 42%
    Spain 26% 33%
    Germany 23% 30%
    Finland 15% 28%
    Canada 22% 26%
    Italy 22% 17%
    US 18% 16%
    Ireland 4% 8%
    Mean 31% 36%
    Source: World Values Survey
    Now this isn't up-to-date data, but unless you have more recent findings showing a surge in RC church attendance, I'm going to surmise that whether a church is liberal, traditional or fundamentalist is irrelevant, they're all losing ground, as much in trad Catholic countries as in liberal Protestant ones. Look at Denmark btw.
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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    The title says, "gay marriage a threat to humanity's future". You added the "grave", you added the "ending humanity". If you have a problem with the phrasing, take it up with the Pope.
    not to mention he totally ignores the word "A" in the phrase, which in fact would mean its ONE of the threats. LMAO


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    Re: Gay marriage a threat to humanity's future: Pope

    Quote Originally Posted by Temporal View Post
    The Pope is a threat to humanity's future.
    Or at least the future of the Roman Catholic church.

    Homophobia = hate. Very un-Christain.

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