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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I read the article and could not really find anything offensive. I thought the idea of working some social studies into the math curriculum was a good idea. Slavery was a part of our history, so what better way to bring economic realities of slavery to a class. It doesn't make any difference if the slaves are red, white and blue.
    Slavery is a serious subject which should have a serious and direct focus. I see that having it in a subject such as this serves only to minimize the real issues with slavery and assert that it's no big deal to have slaves.

    Slavery - is NOT acceptable, is not a casual or common practice and should NOT be engaged in within any context that suggests otherwise or ignores the gross civil and human rights violations. Why couldn't they say "employees" - that's a common, everyday practice (management - employment)

    So: what is it that they're really trying to teach, here? That slavery was no big deal?

    And the beatings - they're minimizing the seriousness of violence and approaching it with a light-weight attitude and demeanor - what does THAT teach?

    I can't believe the teachers received these questions - and gave them to the students to answer them. . . don't teachers pay attention to anything these days?
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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    If 12 teachers at your school handed out these questions to their students, and 5 out of every 6 teachers lacked tenure, and all the non-tenure teachers were fired for this idiocy, how many teachers would that leave?
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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    Quote Originally Posted by Wake View Post
    Why can't we simply have math? Pure focus on mathematics?
    There is some legitimate crossover between some school subjects. When I was in 9th and 10th grade we took history and English together as one big class lasting 2 periods. We did something similar with physics and calculus when I was a senior.

    That being said, history and math don't really go together too well.
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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    There is some legitimate crossover between some school subjects. When I was in 9th and 10th grade we took history and English together as one big class lasting 2 periods. We did something similar with physics and calculus when I was a senior.

    That being said, history and math don't really go together too well.
    That is a good idea. I think it would be excellent to teach english and history together, and math and science together, as it gives context, and a better understanding of each subject. You get to find out what inspired someone to write what they wrote, and how it was a product of it's time for example.
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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    Quote Originally Posted by molten_dragon View Post
    There is some legitimate crossover between some school subjects. When I was in 9th and 10th grade we took history and English together as one big class lasting 2 periods. We did something similar with physics and calculus when I was a senior.

    That being said, history and math don't really go together too well.
    The key about blending subjects and crossing over is keeping things on focus in a practical or realistic manor.

    Math doesn't apply to everything - ignoring the two things that were used that brought up this whole issue . . . when finding real-life applications of subjects it's ideal and more helpful to actually use things that - in the future - you'll likely use math for.

    Business and math = hand in hand.
    Medicine and math = hand in hand.

    But within business or within medicine are smaller sub-fields that aren't ideal: drug overdose, means of murder, money laundering . . . it's long standing common sense that socially negative issues aren't to be used in such a way.
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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    Quote Originally Posted by Aunt Spiker View Post
    But within business or within medicine are smaller sub-fields that aren't ideal: drug overdose, means of murder, money laundering . . . it's long standing common sense that socially negative issues aren't to be used in such a way.
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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    It doesn't say who wrote these math problems. I'd be willing to bet it wasn't the teachers.

    I'd have written something more contemporary like this:

    The red gang has 15 members, and the blue gang has 17. A member of the red gang kills a member of the blue gang every fifteen days, but the blue gang only blows away a member of the red gang every 20 days. If each gang is able to recruit three members a month, which gang will have the most members at the end of the year?

    Now, that one takes some thought.
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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    It doesn't say who wrote these math problems. I'd be willing to bet it wasn't the teachers.

    I'd have written something more contemporary like this:

    The red gang has 15 members, and the blue gang has 17. A member of the red gang kills a member of the blue gang every fifteen days, but the blue gang only blows away a member of the red gang every 20 days. If each gang is able to recruit three members a month, which gang will have the most members at the end of the year?

    Now, that one takes some thought.
    The red gang will end up with more members at the end of a full year.
    I'm already gearing up for Finger Vote 2014.

    Just for reference, means my post was a giant steaming pile of sarcasm.

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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    If 12 teachers at your school handed out these questions to their students, and 5 out of every 6 teachers lacked tenure, and all the non-tenure teachers were fired for this idiocy, how many teachers would that leave?
    Two too many.

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    Re: "If Fred Got Two Beatings a Day," Homework Asks

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    The red gang will end up with more members at the end of a full year.
    Correct. See how easy it is when we relate math to the world that kids know?
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