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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    That's a gross exaggeration of course, but in general the reason for the influx of foreign products is obvious; we aren't a third world country and we can't compete with third world countries on wages. The answer is not to become a third world country in order to compete. The answer is to expand our output of value-added goods and services that less sophisticated countries can't provide.
    To become more productive. Cost of production is a huge factor in measuring productivity, as you now agree. My original point was that we were becoming less productive. "Productive" is most certainy a relative consideration, is it not, as in it does not matter how productive you think you are if everyone else produces more than you at less expense ?

    Further, when one person is working and producing, but the entity standing next to him is not, yet both must survive off the profits of what is produced by the one, we have a further consideration in how "productive" we are, do we not ?

    Does this get me another ad-hom from you ? Flail away

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    It certainly describes the government of that idiot in your sig pic.
    What does Bush have to do with the election of 2012 after 3 years of Obama? I will wait for you to have someone explain the definition to you of Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy)

    By the way did you notice all those "idiots" in the picture behind Bush, too bad we don't have that kind of respect today by our military for the current CIC
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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What does Bush have to do with the election of 2012 after 3 years of Obama? I will wait for you to have someone explain the definition to you of Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy)

    By the way did you notice all those "idiots" in the picture behind Bush, too bad we don't have that kind of respect today by our military for the current CIC
    You mean the entire nation of 300 million people was not totally and completely changed on January 20th 2009 when Obama became President and there were no policies in effect that had long term impact upon the people of this nation?
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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    You mean the entire nation of 300 million people was not totally and completely changed on January 20th 2009 when Obama became President and there were no policies in effect that had long term impact upon the people of this nation?
    No, 52% of the people bought the Obama rhetoric and the media spin regarding the Bush record. Obama's approval rating then jumped into the 70's until people started seeing that the Obama rhetoric wasn't matched by the results generated. Obama showed terrible leadership skills by pushing a totally partisan stimulus package through in Chicago style and making promises that he never delivered. Once the stimulus package passed instead of seeing it through and making sure it addressed the unemployment problem he jumped into healthcare, a job killer. His argument was "I won, you lost" so basically live with it.

    His leadership skills consist of dividing people, promoting class warfare, demonizing individual wealth creation, and promoting more dependence. He will demonize his opposition since he cannot run on his record and in his mind hopefully create enough dependent people to assure 4 more years because he is buying their vote

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What does Bush have to do with the election of 2012 after 3 years of Obama? I will wait for you to have someone explain the definition to you of Ineptocracy (in-ep-toc-ra-cy)

    By the way did you notice all those "idiots" in the picture behind Bush, too bad we don't have that kind of respect today by our military for the current CIC
    have you personally polled every member of the military? whats that? no you havent? didnt think so, yet another one of your opinions that you try to push off as fact.

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    have you personally polled every member of the military? whats that? no you havent? didnt think so, yet another one of your opinions that you try to push off as fact.
    And of course you never pass off your opinions as fact nor does any other liberal here? Yeah, right.

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    And of course you never pass off your opinions as fact nor does any other liberal here? Yeah, right.
    i'm pretty good at stating when i'm posting just my opinion(hint...usually, i will preface my remarks with ' in my opinion, or imo, or in my humble opinion'..) what you are spouting is your opinion, not backed up by fact...it is what it is

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by randel View Post
    i'm pretty good at stating when i'm posting just my opinion(hint...usually, i will preface my remarks with ' in my opinion, or imo, or in my humble opinion'..) what you are spouting is your opinion, not backed up by fact...it is what it is
    BEA.gov, BLS.gov, U.S. Treasury, U.S. Census data aren't opinions, they are facts. Those are the facts that you ignore and have never refuted.

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    Re: U.S. Payrolls Gain More-Than-Expected 200,000; Jobless Rate Falls to 8.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    BEA.gov, BLS.gov, U.S. Treasury, U.S. Census data aren't opinions, they are facts. Those are the facts that you ignore and have never refuted.
    divert much? not discussing BEA, BLS, US TREASURY, US CENSUS, so on and so forth...we were discussing your assertion that the military doesnt respect the president.....even if were discussing the alpabet soup of agencies you use, they are only good so long as someone doesnt use them against you.....

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    Republicans have a point in what they say about the economic reports, but strategically they should be careful because it makes them look cold and unpresidential to turn relatively good economic news into an attack on Obama.
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