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    BBC News - Obama unveils new strategy for 'leaner' US military



    This is an interesting move from Obama and one that I agree with to a degree. I agree that the US should spend less money on foreign wars and try and should switch the focus to the economy my only problem is how can you cutback and then switch focus to Asia.

    "Obama said in November on a visit to Canberra, Australia that the Asia-Pacific was now a top priority for the US. That speech was seen as a challenge to the rising regional power of China."
    China have increased their defence budget significantly for the past 5 years and you are not going to challenge them by decreasing the size of the military and poking China is only going to make it worse. Either cut the budget and bring back the troops and concentrate on domestic policy or challenge China which is it going to be?

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    BBC News - Obama unveils new strategy for 'leaner' US military



    This is an interesting move from Obama and one that I agree with to a degree. I agree that the US should spend less money on foreign wars and try and should switch the focus to the economy my only problem is how can you cutback and then switch focus to Asia.

    "Obama said in November on a visit to Canberra, Australia that the Asia-Pacific was now a top priority for the US. That speech was seen as a challenge to the rising regional power of China."
    China have increased their defence budget significantly for the past 5 years and you are not going to challenge them by decreasing the size of the military and poking China is only going to make it worse. Either cut the budget and bring back the troops and concentrate on domestic policy or challenge China which is it going to be?
    Obama is not going to threaten China and China isn't going to be a threat very soon.

    Also, it should be noted that the Pentagon is going to cut its budget by doing less spending on the Army and the Marine Corps. Much less spending cuts will be applied to the Navy and the Air Force. This is so that the U.S. can maintain global power projection while cutting costs.

    Most of our intervention with China can be done by the Navy, so it makes sense to cut spending by reducing soldiers and marines. It's only if the **** hits the fan that we'll need to increase the number of soldiers and marines again, and if that happens we have a group of very experienced veterans that we can recall if we need to.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    Obama is not going to threaten China and China isn't going to be a threat very soon.

    Also, it should be noted that the Pentagon is going to cut its budget by doing less spending on the Army and the Marine Corps. Much less spending cuts will be applied to the Navy and the Air Force. This is so that the U.S. can maintain global power projection while cutting costs.

    Most of our intervention with China can be done by the Navy, so it makes sense to cut spending by reducing soldiers and marines. It's only if the **** hits the fan that we'll need to increase the number of soldiers and marines again, and if that happens we have a group of very experienced veterans that we can recall if we need to.

    what makes you say that China will not be a threat in the future?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Higgins86 View Post
    what makes you say that China will not be a threat in the future?
    Because so much of the Chinese military is used to maintain domestic security that it cannot project substantial military power without decreasing the government's authoritarianism.

    So the Chinese Communist Party has a choice. It can either increase the freedoms and liberties available to its citizenry and free up the military for power projection abroad or it can maintain its stranglehold on the Chinese people but be unable to become a global military power. It cannot do both.

    Also, the PRC Navy has yet to really develop itself as an effective rival to the US Navy.

    So I think that in the near term there isn't much to worry from China. Sure, the PRC may become a major threat in the future, but I don't think it will in the near future. So we should spend the money to prepare for that when that becomes a more likely scenario.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    our military is too big and too costly.

    its time to slim things down. fight smarter...not harder.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    our military is too big and too costly.

    its time to slim things down. fight smarter...not harder.
    You read that in a book?
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    Re: US military cutbacks

    we should honor our commitments to veterans, and we should bring troops home and nation build here.

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    Not even close to the cuts that are needed. We will still be spending as much as the next top 10 spending countries combined.

    Too bad we don't have a liberal candidate in the running for President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    You read that in a book?
    no...why?????

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    Re: US military cutbacks

    I don't get the **** why people are so worried about the cuts.
    China is decades away from achieving what the US has already gotten right now. Even with hundreds of billions in cuts, the US will still have a defense budget that is bigger than the next 10 nations combined. Russia has proven itself inept in Georgia. Iran is far back from China. South Korean can handle North Korea alone, except for very high civilian casualties and damages, which can't be avoided even with US intervention (DMZ artillery).
    Sure, they will leave their marks, but it's like comparing a small cut on an athelete, then complaining how overweight kids might catch him/her up in sports.
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